Boy, oh boy, it must be Halloween or something.

Had my car towed to the dealer (never been there) on Sunday. Left a voicemail and e-mail with the service manager, since the drop was after hours to give him a heads up. My wife and I carpooled in her Mercury Milan this morning. By 10:30 AM, I still had not heard anything, so I called and spoke with a service advisor. Apparently there was a fire wherever Ford houses their main dealer server(s), and they had to cut power, so sounds like many of the dealer networks were down today.

So, I left work this afternoon to pick up my wife and there was a puddle of motor oil under her car. Sure as $hit it was all over the fan, frame, air dam, etc. What a mess. Looked like it was coming from the oil filter (which uses a cartridge filter with a plastic cover sealed by o-rings). I checked the oil, and it was a half a quart low, so I decided to drive it. Picked up my wife and went to the dealer a quarter mile down the road from her work where I'd just had my truck towed the day before.

Her leaking car gave me a great opportunity to meet the service manager and mingle with three service advisors (they werent too busy today). Luckily, the filter cap was a little loose. They ordered a spare (original plastic cap was pretty chewed up), and I'll go back tomorrow to have it replaced. They spent an hour checking it out, making sure it wasn't something else leaking, tightened up the old filter cap and said to keep an eye on the oil levels until they can replace it tomorrow. They even washed all the oil spray out from under the car and inside the engine bay. No charge!

To the truck: they confirmed it was a stuck fuel injector (I haven't asked yet which one). They have parts coming tomorrow and said it should be back together by Wednesday at the latest. The SM said he's fairly certain it will be covered under either the PT, Emissoins, or Long Term Defects warranty, but they need their network computers to come online to verify for certain.

I was there for just about an hour and a half this afternoon, and on my way out the door, the SM stopped me, called me by name, and wanted to make sure I was taken care of. Great experience so far, and hopefully I'll be back on the road soon.

Happy Halloween!

As long as it all turns up roses! 

an hour to essentially top off the oil an wash the bay?  No wonder you cant get a hold of anyone!

Quote from: J-Will on November 01, 2016, 09:41:30 AM
an hour to essentially top off the oil an wash the bay?  No wonder you cant get a hold of anyone!

Haha. Well, I had asked them to be thorough to make sure something else wasn't leaking. They also spent some time tracking down a replacement oil filter cap that was local, so they could get it replaced quickly.


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hope they get it all done for you, thats the important part

thanks for the heads up on the potential service delays stemming from the data center fire

Sorry to hear about your rides.  I hope it all gets taken care off.  It doesn't seem like the injector was an issue during you log since the measured AFR for bank 1 tracks bank 2's AFR and it is at a good ratio.  The only thing good about this tune that I can see is the AFR.  The desired and measured boost are all over the place and at a low level, and the throttle is all over the place too. 

Next time, log Accel Pedal Volts and Intake Air Temp 2.  Compare Accel Pedal Volts to throttle angle actual and you'll see that the throttlebody is moving a lot differently than your foot.  WOT is 4 volts and 82 degrees on mine.  It really looks like the only thing this tune did is adjust your AFR to a better 0.8 lambda and removed the timing retard on the shifts.  I would put the torque management back in on the shifts to see if that drops your KR down on the shift.  Mine was doing the same and that is where I could hear the pinging with the *** tune.  It had audible detonation on the shift with the *** tune.  That tune pegged my 2-bar though, so he had a lot of boost commanded. 

The AJP tune I have now is great.  No detonation, over 7 tenths and 4mph faster than stock in the 1/4 mile, and that is still retaining the torque management on the shifts.  Throttle stays pegged at 82 degrees, AFR is at 0.8, Boost is flat and comes on early, all good things!

One thing to note though is that you logged an 87 octane tune, right?  I am assuming Torrie would do something with boost if you told him to do a 91 octane tune. I do still think you are getting false knock since you advance was pretty low on the 91 fuel and it still got a lot of KR in the middle of 3rd, which is what mine does.  My last log also had KR jump up at 5100rpm in 3rd like in your 91 octane log.  The most I saw was a KR of 3.5 which gave me 10.5 degrees of advance at 5100rpm in 3rd.  My IAT's were up at 130 degrees and my boost was a little over 13psi.  Your boost was only at 11psi and your timing was almost the same with 11 degrees advance after KR pulled 3.75 degrees.  I think these damn things are just noisy in the middle of 3rd.  Yours put the advance back in as the rpm climbed, which is the same thing mine did.

I think you have some false knock and AJP is familiar with this since he has been dealing with mine.  I highly recommend you give him a shot.  His Rev 4 tune that he sent me will probably be a good 87 octane tune, and then the Rev 5 is a good 91 octane tune.  He may want to turn the boost down a little though for 87 octane.  Maybe my Rev 2 tune would be a good 87 octane, which was still 4 tenths quicker than stock in the 1/4.  He also has a trick to help out these vehicles that suffer from false knock.  I promise you won't be sorry if you use his tune.

AJP, let me know if I can post a Rev 5 standard KR log for him to see.

Good Luck!

^I Highly recommend you listen to this guy, AJP has some magic in his tunes! (Not actually Magic, but he knows his stuff!). We are on Rev7 on my SHO, and at this point I have very minimal to no KR, when on stock/my first few revs I had some false KR. I did the Knock Sensor fix on the driver side sensor, wrapped the wires, taped it all up, and ziptied, and switch to a better gas as well. The last 3rd gear pull I did,(20-~90) and last wot(0-~90) both had 0KR, and we are starting to work on an Ethanol Tune.

For sure, if anyone is on the fence, get an AJP tune!

I don't know why the forum puts stars in for the tune I was talking about that gave me issues. It was a *** tune.


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Quote from: 16MagSport on November 01, 2016, 07:04:18 PM
I don't know why the forum puts stars in for the tune I was talking about that gave me issues. It was a *** tune.

Hmm, I see "*** tune" in your last post, I don't see any stars.

At any rate, thanks for the detailed post! I will take your recommendations under advisement when I get back to logging!

If AJP lets you post your data log, I'd be really interested to see it. I'm trying to figure out what "normal" or "good" looks like, so I can understand this stuff a bit better.

I got confirmation from the dealer today that they are covering the injector under warranty (mostly). There was fuel in the oil, so they said it needs an oil change, but the warranty only covers the OE oil, so I had to drop off some new Amsoil this afternoon. Still better than the parts/labor on an injector change, so I won't complain.

Great news MiWiAu!  Very glad it's working out.  I seriously doubt any issue was tune related and Unleashed has a great reputation on multiple platforms.

AJP has an even better one for this platform on this forum.  That says a lot about his abilities.

Yup, getting Brad to tune your car is worth every penny...twice over..

Quote from: StealBlueSho on November 01, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
Yup, getting Brad to tune your car is worth every penny...twice over..

With his knowledge and the amount of work he puts into each Rev/checking each data log, I would say he is about as good as a Dyno Tune. Imagine if we set him up with a Dyno (Kikstarter anyone?)

A little side note to the moderators:

If you want to merge this thread with my "2013 XSport Tuning" thread (or vice versa) to clean up the forum, feel free.

I had originally posted a question to better understand KR, but there's a lot of cross-over and talk specific to my vehicle. In retrospect, I should have just kept it all together.

Thanks again to everyone for all the recommendations and analysis!! More to come, I'm sure!

Mikey

Got my truck back from the dealer late this morning. I've got a full tank of 91 that I'm going to run through it on the OE 2-bar tune. I hope to be back in the tuning saddle next week.

That's great that you have it back already.  If you can, get a log of your stock tune on 91 octane.  I would love to see that and see how much KR your stock tune gets on 91 compared to what mine was doing.