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K&N filter, drop in or whole set up?

Started by 2010SHOtime, March 11, 2014, 12:15:06 AM

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painterpatt

I switched back to my stock intake and went to track. No change in time but IA temps were 20/30 deg cooler sitting in staging. Put Airaid back in tho, Just not the same without the massive noise fluff lol. I also cut the bottom corner near fender opening off Airaid box, Pulled both rubber gaskets off hood, and one off top of wiper cowl so air goes thru underhood. cut back of grille out so now you can see air cleaner thru grill, and I left off that massive shield under motor. stays alot cooler now. Need all I can get in Florida. I think I'm going to cut a slot in core support cover and bend a piece of metal at a 90 so I can block the grille opening back off when it rains like hell down here.
Koolaid drinkin, Flex drivin !!

southtxSHO

Quote from: Night Hawk on April 10, 2014, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on March 12, 2014, 08:25:57 PM
We recommend our Windstorm CAI for the Eco-boost platforms gain up to 10 additional horsepower! We just received a new shipment in. Get yours today!

  Any pics bud?

Got mine last week



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painterpatt

Koolaid drinkin, Flex drivin !!

Woody

Quote from: bamsho on May 03, 2014, 01:41:03 PM
Here is the modified air box I did.  Someone else did it too on his MKS, used PVC pipe, but I used 3" intake flex pipe.  It was very tight under the left front head light assembly, that's why I used the flex pipe.  Going to order a Frogzskin breathable filter to help keep out bugs and other big debris.  Frogzskin is used on newer snowmobiles too keep out snow and snowdust.



Thanks for the pics and info.  Do you get much noise fluff out of this?  That was the only reason I was considering doing it.  Thanks.

bamsho

No, I didn't here any extra noise like I did with my K&N CAI setup.  Just need 3in hole saw and flex pipe.  Not sure how tight it is behind head light of an MKS.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

Livernois Motorsports

I recommend our Windstorm line of CAI. We have seen gains of up to 15 HP. Unfortunately with our testing we did not see much of a gain over the stock intake with the K&N CAI.

SHOdded

Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on May 05, 2014, 11:18:18 AM
I recommend our Windstorm line of CAI. We have seen gains of up to 15 HP. Unfortunately with our testing we did not see much of a gain over the stock intake with the K&N CAI.
I assume this is for the 2010-12 SHO?  (That is the only application a search pulled up on your website.)  What are the requirements to achieve these gains with the Windstorm CAI (tune/fuel/exhaust, etc for example)?  Are the dyno sheets publicly available?  TIA.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SwampRat

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Quote from: SHOdded on May 05, 2014, 12:20:37 PM
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on May 05, 2014, 11:18:18 AM
I recommend our Windstorm line of CAI. We have seen gains of up to 15 HP. Unfortunately with our testing we did not see much of a gain over the stock intake with the K&N CAI.
I assume this is for the 2010-12 SHO?  (That is the only application a search pulled up on your website.)  What are the requirements to achieve these gains with the Windstorm CAI (tune/fuel/exhaust, etc for example)?  Are the dyno sheets publicly available?  TIA.

This is a Re Branded AirAid CAI .. curious as to whether LMS's buying power will result in a lower price than what the AirAid sells for elsewhere .

That would be a good thing .

Even though many don't like the design it is still popular and MANY of us use it.
I still have mine .
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

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panther427

That would be a good thing for sure.

Cool name you guys choose.  I like it
2013 SHO

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: SHOdded on May 05, 2014, 12:20:37 PM
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on May 05, 2014, 11:18:18 AM
I recommend our Windstorm line of CAI. We have seen gains of up to 15 HP. Unfortunately with our testing we did not see much of a gain over the stock intake with the K&N CAI.
I assume this is for the 2010-12 SHO?  (That is the only application a search pulled up on your website.)  What are the requirements to achieve these gains with the Windstorm CAI (tune/fuel/exhaust, etc for example)?  Are the dyno sheets publicly available?  TIA.
I would also like to know what the effects to IAT's are as they get very hot with the K&N and the stock intake is very good at keeping temps close to ambient. It is not uncommon to be 1 or 2 degrees under ambient even at 70 degrees.

FoMoCoSHO

At this point, I'm skeptical of any CAI with the car in stock form.

However, I'm keeping an open mind and would like to see some data of a CAI on a modded car.

My plan is to slap my k&n on after the bolt ins and tune are in and re-dyno back to back.

That's actually the only reason I haven't sold it or turned it into garage art.(At least it's pretty, lol.)


navbtcret

I ran against a friend of mine this past Friday at the track, both 2013's and identical mods except he has a CAI and I have a drop in K&N. Every time we lined up against each other he was .01-.03 faster than me. He also has the Flower wheels and mine came with the 19's so that is a small difference too. Same cool down time and everything, so that make me think the CAI does add a little to you car.
2013 SHO Non PP, LMS 93 Performance v8, 3 Bar MAP, 170 Stat, MDesign CAI, Hot Pipes with TiAL BOV, PPE Catted Downpipes

BiGMaC

Quote from: navbtcret on May 06, 2014, 09:10:09 AM
I ran against a friend of mine this past Friday at the track, both 2013's and identical mods except he has a CAI and I have a drop in K&N. Every time we lined up against each other he was .01-.03 faster than me. He also has the Flower wheels and mine came with the 19's so that is a small difference too. Same cool down time and everything, so that make me think the CAI does add a little to you car.

A different finding than most have reported.... warrants a bit of analysis I think.

Do you have the timeslips you could post?  Interesting to see them I think.  The main variable not controlled is primarily the driver if both cars are either PP or non-PP.   I wonder if the drop-in is the problem....

Other member tests were same driver, same car, different runs (back-to-back) with AM CAI vs completely stock intake... 4DR and bamsho found stock faster in their trial conducted this way.

Removing the entire filter box (saxophone only open intake) vs stock showed no difference on the dyno in my '13 SHO nonPP... but of course that's not "real world"

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BiGMaC

Quote from: BiGMaC on May 03, 2014, 03:24:36 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 14, 2014, 09:24:02 PM
Take a look at the Fastlane cai thread.

I have "stumbled" upon some info as to why the OEM performs better.

FMCS... Could you link the post?... There are 3 threads about the Fastlane CAI. TIA

bump.... What's the secret FoMoCo?

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SwampRat

Preliminary prototype pics of the CAI that spartan27 is working on are promising , however I am not at liberty to share .
Coming along nicely I think .
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

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