2013 SHO PP Or No PP

[68_GT]

good point my PP has no spare tire = lighter = faster than a non PP SHO lol

[Fast SHO]

You all are looking at this wrong.  The PP is designed for the road course.  You will only see a 1/4th mile improvement due to the gearing, otherwise all the changes are to benefit the twisties.

[Bigfoot]

ACC>PP.  ACC is amazing, worth every penny.

that and turbo cars don't need gearing like NA cars do.  the car has long gears, and throwing a 3.16 RP in it does not change the performance. 

the extra coolers are nice, but as its been said those can be added.

I guess I don't understand why "...turbo cars don't need gearing like NA cars do."

NA cars benefit from gearing changes as it allows them to stay in their relatively narrow torque band.  turbo cars, especially a twin turbo car has a broad fat torque curve.  it doest not need gearing to help accelerate the engine into its peak power areas. 

look into Supras for instance.  when was the last time you saw a big turbo supra with 4.10s?  they all run long gears that allow them to spool and stay in gear allowing them to stay in boost.  shifting gears is loosing boost. 

and auto+long gears=perfect turbo setup. 

[shoman04]

You could even be lighter and faster if you fill your tires with helium!   

LOL ROTF LMBO!!!!!!

[BiGMaC]

There's always Ex-Lax for those last few pounds!    

[68_GT]

ACC>PP.  ACC is amazing, worth every penny.

that and turbo cars don't need gearing like NA cars do.  the car has long gears, and throwing a 3.16 RP in it does not change the performance. 

the extra coolers are nice, but as its been said those can be added.

I guess I don't understand why "...turbo cars don't need gearing like NA cars do."

NA cars benefit from gearing changes as it allows them to stay in their relatively narrow torque band.  turbo cars, especially a twin turbo car has a broad fat torque curve.  it doest not need gearing to help accelerate the engine into its peak power areas. 

look into Supras for instance.  when was the last time you saw a big turbo supra with 4.10s?  they all run long gears that allow them to spool and stay in gear allowing them to stay in boost.  shifting gears is loosing boost. 

and auto+long gears=perfect turbo setup.

sure on a 1000hp rear wheel drive car highway race. But really we're juat talking about a couple of tuned and lightly moded SHO's here. Not quite the same thing, and 410's lol really

[Bigfoot]

ACC>PP.  ACC is amazing, worth every penny.

that and turbo cars don't need gearing like NA cars do.  the car has long gears, and throwing a 3.16 RP in it does not change the performance. 

the extra coolers are nice, but as its been said those can be added.

I guess I don't understand why "...turbo cars don't need gearing like NA cars do."

NA cars benefit from gearing changes as it allows them to stay in their relatively narrow torque band.  turbo cars, especially a twin turbo car has a broad fat torque curve.  it doest not need gearing to help accelerate the engine into its peak power areas. 

look into Supras for instance.  when was the last time you saw a big turbo supra with 4.10s?  they all run long gears that allow them to spool and stay in gear allowing them to stay in boost.  shifting gears is loosing boost. 

and auto+long gears=perfect turbo setup.

sure on a 1000hp rear wheel drive car highway race. But really we're juat talking about a couple of tuned and lightly moded SHO's here. Not quite the same thing, and 410's lol really

that was a pretty simple explanation. sorry it didn't make sense to you. 

[68_GT]

What makes you think I didn't understand what you were saying ? My point was Supra's to SHO is not exactly apples to apples.

We're talking about 2 SHO's here. One with a lower gear than the other.

[Fast SHO]

Completely depends on what you are trying to do.  Taller gears in FI cars are usually done for one of two reasons.  1) Ensure you are not maxing out your gearing in the 1/4th due to MPH (a problem in a lot of high HP FI cars where they will have to shift just before the end of the track resulting in a lost in MPH and a slower ET). 2) Be able to get a higher MPH out of the car in events such as the standing mile i.e. not run out of gear....or the autobahn/highways of Mexico.

With a traditional turbo setup lower gears can help overcome turbo lag, and ultimately in a car like the SHO it would help with the hole shot.

Bottom line is higher gears are usually an upgrade for FI cars pushing significant amounts of power and/or struggling with traction (roots style blowers).

Lower gearing in our cars is a good thing.

[Darkside]

So what are everyones 60' then?

Non PP here with consistent 1.84's in 1500 DA.