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Started by ElvenSho, October 04, 2014, 02:23:20 PM

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ElvenSho

Quote from: cror1 on November 01, 2014, 12:09:52 AM
Off the subject, kind off, but I'm curious why people don't prefer using oiled filters like drop in k&n?
I think because the oil from the filter can hurt the turbo.
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

SHOdded

Personal choice, really, there is debate over whether the oil from the filters will foul the downstream sensors.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

CroR1

I see. I don't know, I had these filters in many of my cars and never had an issue with an 02 sensors. The turbos though, I can't comment on that one. But, there shouldn't be that much oil on them to the point where it drips and enters through the engine I would think.

Larrylu

I've been running an oiled drop in K&N and never had an issue.
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

ZSHO

The main issue is when you clean the air filters,you have to take precaution not to over oil the filter,just use sparingly.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

MDesign Performance

Along with what ZSHO said about over oiling, the main reason people seem to be afraid of oiled filters for is that excess oil can find its way onto the MAP/MAF sensor on their cars. Those air sensors are very, very delicate and you could see the most erratic behavior develop (even with shifting of the transmission) with a dirty sensor.

Keyword though is "excess" oil, therefore if you know how to oil a filter properly you should have no problems. I actually prefer a lightly oiled filter over a dry filter since it traps more dirt, it is just more maintenance whereas a dry filter you would toss out and replace at XXX miles.
2011 MKS EcoBoost: MDesign Carbon Cold Air Intake; SP-534 Plugs; Power Stop C/S Rotors

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Larrylu


Quote from: Spartn27 on November 01, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
Along with what ZSHO said about over oiling, the main reason people seem to be afraid of oiled filters for is that excess oil can find its way onto the MAP/MAF sensor on their cars. Those air sensors are very, very delicate and you could see the most erratic behavior develop (even with shifting of the transmission) with a dirty sensor.

Keyword though is "excess" oil, therefore if you know how to oil a filter properly you should have no problems. I actually prefer a lightly oiled filter over a dry filter since it traps more dirt, it is just more maintenance whereas a dry filter you would toss out and replace at XXX miles.

Can a dirty sensor be easily cleaned?  Should this be cleaned every now and then as preventive maintenance?
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

SHOnUup

Yes, yes and yes. MAF cleaner on the MAP sensors is great maintenance and easily done.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

Larrylu


Quote from: SHOnUup on November 01, 2014, 10:44:04 AM
Yes, yes and yes. MAF cleaner on the MAP sensors is great maintenance and easily done.

Rich
Could this be a factor in my mystery random tranny hiccup....that would be too easy!  Gotta try it.
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

MDesign Performance

Yep, literally takes a second to pop it out and spray it a couple times, will improve how smoothly the car runs/shifts and can improve gas mileage. I'd clean them every oil change, one can should last you a year. Here is what I've been using for years which is widely available from any local store:



Could definitely clear up some minor gremlins, I'd bet to wager you'll see some dirt on your sensor if you pop it out!
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ZSHO

I always recommend this product,the old saying is you never get a fix coming from a can,but this product is an exception,used it on both of my map sensors and iat,like Rich mentioned does miracles and safe and leaves no residue,wish the can backed up the statement 10-15hp increase,lol


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

ZSHO

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Quote from: Larrylu on November 01, 2014, 10:41:00 AM

Quote from: Spartn27 on November 01, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
Along with what ZSHO said about over oiling, the main reason people seem to be afraid of oiled filters for is that excess oil can find its way onto the MAP/MAF sensor on their cars. Those air sensors are very, very delicate and you could see the most erratic behavior develop (even with shifting of the transmission) with a dirty sensor.

Keyword though is "excess" oil, therefore if you know how to oil a filter properly you should have no problems. I actually prefer a lightly oiled filter over a dry filter since it traps more dirt, it is just more maintenance whereas a dry filter you would toss out and replace at XXX miles.

Can a dirty sensor be easily cleaned?  Should this be cleaned every now and then as preventive maintenance?
Larry been using this can for years,the sensors are very fragile and when spraying the sensor with the straw attached,never get to close cause the straw can damage it,also for real dirty sensors  you could spray some on a cotton swap and rub gently and then spray again.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

glock-coma

When I changed out out my 3 bar sensor back to 2 bar recently it was covered with oil.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)