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Sparkplug/race question

Started by ElvenSho, October 04, 2014, 02:23:20 PM

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ElvenSho

So last nite i met up with one of my friends who has a 2008 bmw 535i that wanted to check my new SHO out. After checking it out we decided to do few friendly runs. I won but have some questions. I noticed that my car seems to hesitate a bit while at WOT and its hard to explain. It pulls hard but it seems to "skip" a bit at when accelerating in 2nd-4th gear. It feel more like traction control even tho its off, just odd. Also i tried to brakeboost one time in 2nd and the car juat lost all power after i let go of the brake. Anyways I think its either the gas from the dealerahip that was 87-89 that i mixed 92 with about 5 gallons to make it full once I got home or it could be the sparkplugs. On the maintenance history i do not see anything other that oil change and tires so I am assuming it still has stock plugs at 53k miles. I plan to stay stock until probably june-july of next year but would like to get plugs for it now and new airfilter since the stock one is dirty. What plugs are recommended for staying stock and what filter? Also do I gap them at .030 or .035?

Btw how badly should I have beat the beemer? Off the line it was not even close but from 1st gear I only put about a car on him by 65-70 and from 2nd gear we were even until about top of 3rd where I started to pull a bit and decided to shut it down right away due to excessive speed. Doea that sound about right? Both cars are stock. Oh and I do plan to run 93 w/o ethanol as soon as I go through this tank of gas!
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

FoMoCoSHO

Please update your signature with details about your car so we have an idea where to start.

TIA

Josephm

Car and driver has the 535 at 13.9 in the 1/4 mile.
Motor trend has the PP SHO at 13.7. It should of been really close especially if you were on 87 octane.
12' Flex EB
Unleashed X4
3rd Cat delete

FoMoCoSHO

If I try to brake boost over 25-2600 RPM, the car will dump boost so at least that experience sounds normal. You get into peak TQ at 1700 RPM so I'd start there and experiment.

FoMoCoSHO

Yeah, if you were on 87 what you felt could very well have been timing being pulled.

My next suspect would be bad/incorrectly gapped plugs.

Josephm

I dont have any issues brake boosting but the car has to be in the 'Manual' 

I have only done it a couple times, and it was 2nd gear around 25-3000.
12' Flex EB
Unleashed X4
3rd Cat delete

ElvenSho

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on October 04, 2014, 02:28:58 PM
Please update your signature with details about your car so we have an idea where to start.

TIA
Oops sorry will update, thanks!
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

ElvenSho

Quote from: Josephm on October 04, 2014, 02:29:07 PM
Car and driver has the 535 at 13.9 in the 1/4 mile.
Motor trend has the PP SHO at 13.7. It should of been really close especially if you were on 87 octane.
Mine ia not pp but that explains why it was close.
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

ElvenSho

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on October 04, 2014, 02:31:59 PM
Yeah, if you were on 87 what you felt could very well have been timing being pulled.

My next suspect would be bad/incorrectly gapped plugs.
I will correct both of these issues today/tomorrow and see if my car drives even better. :D
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

FoMoCoSHO

In the 1/4 the differences between the two disappear.

In a stoplight to stoplight race I believe the PP equipped car would be a tad quicker.

All out top end I believe the non-pp would be the victor.

YMMV

ElvenSho

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on October 04, 2014, 02:49:55 PM
In the 1/4 the differences between the two disappear.

In a stoplight to stoplight race I believe the PP equipped car would be a tad quicker.

All out top end I believe the non-pp would be the victor.

YMMV
I see, thanks. So what sparkplugs and gap for a stock car with 93 octane?
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

FoMoCoSHO

Motorcraft SP534

If you are stock, I would gap to OEM specs.

Tuned .28-.30 depending on the tuner you choose.

Which reminds me, I need to close my gaps a tad...

glock-coma

If it felt like you were getting a hesitation on the top end'
I would check you're knock sensor wiring to confirm it is not chaffed or grounding out to the block.

I'll try to find the link and update my post.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

glock-coma

Found it.
Just be sure to start at page 1.


http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=554.0
Chaffed Knock Sensor Wires....
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

ElvenSho

Quote from: glock-coma on October 04, 2014, 03:14:08 PM
Found it.
Just be sure to start at page 1.


http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=554.0
Chaffed Knock Sensor Wires....
Thanks i will look into this also!
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie