Quote from: 68_GT on December 05, 2013, 12:23:43 PM

Quote from: Darkside on December 05, 2013, 07:46:08 AM
All this talk about comparing times is crazy, way too many variables.  Everyones car will run several tenths different depending on track/weather conditions.

yeah but still apples to apples wouldn't the car with the lower gear still have at least some degree of acceleration advantage ?

I don't recall in any of my days in and around cars that people paid to upgrade to a taller gearing for a performance benefit.

 

Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 05, 2013, 12:30:19 PM

Quote from: 68_GT on December 05, 2013, 12:23:43 PM

Quote from: Darkside on December 05, 2013, 07:46:08 AM
All this talk about comparing times is crazy, way too many variables.  Everyones car will run several tenths different depending on track/weather conditions.

yeah but still apples to apples wouldn't the car with the lower gear still have at least some degree of acceleration advantage ?

I don't recall in any of my days in and around cars that people paid to upgrade to a taller gearing for a performance benefit.

right who does that ?

NO ONE ! ha ha there's just not one reason to unless you have a hardcore drag only car and your trying to avoid shifting just before the traps.

Quote from: 68_GT on December 05, 2013, 12:22:28 PM

Quote from: shoman04 on December 05, 2013, 11:55:58 AM

Quote from: Darkside on December 05, 2013, 07:46:08 AM
All this talk about comparing times is crazy, way too many variables.  Everyones car will run several tenths different depending on track/weather conditions.

You are right Darkside But that was said at the begaining. It's just fun talking about the differents.

better sheet that I have with me now.


do you have a better pic of your dyno sheet complete ?

what rpm is the power falling off at ? about 5k rpms ? that's what I'm hoping the XV1 tune will fix for us as Ford programed the boost to bleed off.

you have a lot of great videos ! thanks I enjoyed them

Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 05, 2013, 11:55:13 AM

Quote from: Darkside on December 05, 2013, 07:46:08 AM
All this talk about comparing times is crazy, way too many variables.  Everyones car will run several tenths different depending on track/weather conditions.

Sounds like someone who has a non-PP.

Unless your avatar picture was a one time event, you should know this.  My cars times will vary greatly from track to track.  I spent one summer racing my old TBSS at different tracks with the same mods, only changing the DA.  It ran anywhere from 12.85 to 13.25 with no changes.  Whenever someone thinks they have a factory freak, I tend to believe they ran in great conditions.

With that said, I would think that a PP holds some advantage but probably not much.  Put a skinny guy in a non PP and a fat guy in a PP and they are probably on equal grounds.

Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 05, 2013, 12:30:19 PM

Quote from: 68_GT on December 05, 2013, 12:23:43 PM

Quote from: Darkside on December 05, 2013, 07:46:08 AM
All this talk about comparing times is crazy, way too many variables.  Everyones car will run several tenths different depending on track/weather conditions.

yeah but still apples to apples wouldn't the car with the lower gear still have at least some degree of acceleration advantage ?

I don't recall in any of my days in and around cars that people paid to upgrade to a taller gearing for a performance benefit.

Do you think my G8 would be faster with 3:45 gears or 3:73's?  Each car reacts differently to gears, higher gears don't always mean faster times.

Btw, the 3:45's have produced faster times.

 Fun to watch this thread 

I like the skinny guy, fat guy analogy.  I was the fat guy last fall but I'm on a diet now.  Starvin' for the 12 baby!

going on a diet for a 12sec time slip LMAO !?

LOL  I really needed to lose anyway.  Might as well have a good reason.

Quote from: 68_GT on December 05, 2013, 04:25:23 PM
going on a diet for a 12sec time slip LMAO !?

Whatever it takes, every 100lbs is a tenth in the quarter(lol).

SO, If I went 12.669sec @59 deg and 230lb w/tune,CAI,DynoMax. AND 12.331SEC @79 deg and 240lb w/METH TUNE,CAI,3"D-PIPE,2.5"X-PIPE,2.5"EX-PIPE,and DynoMax.

SO, 50LB LESS, 20DEG LESS I CAN HIT 12.081SEC!!!!!!!! WERE IS THE NEAREST GYM?!!!!!!! 12.0 FLAT HERE I COME.LOL

Couple of ways to get down in weight.

Lose the passenger and rear seats.  Drop the spare anchor.

Quote from: Fast SHO on December 05, 2013, 07:50:20 PM
Couple of ways to get down in weight.

Lose the passenger and rear seats.  Drop the spare anchor.

I did take the back seat out and the PP CAR's have no spare.

Quote from: shoman04 on December 05, 2013, 07:38:22 PM
SO, If I went 12.669sec @59 deg and 230lb w/tune,CAI,DynoMax. AND 12.331SEC @79 deg and 240lb w/METH TUNE,CAI,3"D-PIPE,2.5"X-PIPE,2.5"EX-PIPE,and DynoMax.

SO, 50LB LESS, 20DEG LESS I CAN HIT 12.081SEC!!!!!!!! WERE IS THE NEAREST GYM?!!!!!!! 12.0 FLAT HERE I COME.LOL

Race at Atco in the fall and you will run very low 12's.  When you raced at appreciation day the best DA was 1500.  I've seen guys run in large negative DA at Atco.  Its not a mystery why the best times on the net are coming mainly from the eastcoast.