Quote from: thatsmrgimp2u on October 12, 2013, 05:04:54 PM
When I have some time to sit down and actually do some diligent research I will. I'll look top gear laps and things of that nature to get a comparison. All I'm saying is that your usual Street encounter on a highway will end bad for you. Unless you are 4dr... Lol

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I just gave you actual tested and recorded data from the same source, Car and Driver, utilizing the same testing criteria and you guys can not swallow the pill of the truth. Explain to me how Car and Driver's professional drivers ( very key point here when we are talking manual versus an automatic) can not wring out performance that bests an SHO, but somehow that all changes on the street.

What part of the state's do you live in? I could probably arrange for a friendly race with an equally modded speed if you are open minded to it.

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They really do not. It was a 30 mph roll... None of the facts you provided take that into account. There was a 5mph-100, but that need not apply as he was not in 1st gear. The skid pad did not apply, quarter mile is useless;

Quote from: thatsmrgimp2u on October 12, 2013, 05:27:19 PMWhat part of the state's do you live in? I could probably arrange for a friendly race with an equally modded speed if you are open minded to it.

Although I haven't participated in any part of this discussion yet, I have been taking pleasure in reading some of the jocularity posted thus far.

Just as much as i'll enjoy whoop'n one of these in my area.

Comments like the one i quoted, will ensure I start hunting for one during my daily drives.

Muahahahahahaha :flame:

Carry on good people.

"Sent while on the road, burn'n meth, screeching tires, winding out the gears, & push'n the twins"

Should just arrange it... Most the guys that have your kind of mods, are always willing to see how it hang to other cars.

I bet Mrgimp2u still checks in over there, as i have not in months.

Let's not forget that I traded that car for a sho... I had it for 4 years though, and feel obligated to defend it. Lol. I'm sure it would be the same here with everyone given a similar discussion with the eb cars and another type of vehicle.

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Its not like Your saying anything that cant be proven. It is just bringing light to there sushi roll capabilities.

For the record, I'm a big fan of plenty of platforms of cars.

I am by no means brand loyal.

Both foreign and domestic, including the one being discussed in this thread.

But looking at the numbers that SRT82ECOBOOST posted, and knowing that I'm already deep into the low 12's, with the 2nd set of ATP upgraded turbos already on their way to my residence...

I think it would be fun to look at the drivers face after handing out a punishment.

Haha

"Sent while on the road, burn'n meth, screeching tires, winding out the gears, & push'n the twins"

I would love to watch a BT mazdaspeed on corn run you from a roll. I know there is a few with the 3076 on corn over there

Kinda flexing a bit here. I ran neck and neck with an evo that ran an 11.8 on a 93 degree day. I actually began to pull a bit around 100mph. Stock turbo... But with e85 and meth. Every scenario is different. Just saying for some perspective.

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Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on October 12, 2013, 07:58:16 AM
I would need numbers to prove to that a Mazdaspeed 3, that is down 100+ hp and front wheel drive, would actually be faster around a true road course. According to Car and Driver the Taurus SHO pulled .86g, the Mazdaspeed 3 pulled .87, when ran through the 300 ft. diameter skidpad. Unless you are running on an autocross track in a mall parking lot, the Taurus SHO is going to be faster around a track.

I've actually ran both the Mazdaspeed 3 and the SHO at Pacific Raceways in Kent, WA. This course has a lot of twists and turns and alot of elevation change. I smoked my SHO brakes in 1 lap. I think the SHO would catch up on straights, but would always lose ground on the twisties!

I am throwing in my towel on this debate.

Since I have actually owned both cars, I can make the following statement:

I wouldn't have traded the Mazda for the SHO if I didn't need more room for my kids. I love both cars equally and, I am a blue blooded Ford guy through and through. The Speed 3 is no joke.

Hope nobody got their panties in a twist.

Witch one of you 2 coming from the ms3 had the built one?

Mazda definitely be better in the twisties then comparo the behemoth of a Flex, or a SHO, but then again....

People like 4DR, Darreli, and FirstSHO are running the new Megan Racing Coilovers, along with other various suspension tweeks.

Either way, agreed, both cars are fun as hell, as has been discussed.

Each with their own attributes. But with 3 kids in tow, the SHO's the name of the game for me. I'm just glad it can hang (and in some cases likely beat) other offerings out there.

All in good fun.

"Sent while on the road, burn'n meth, screeching tires, winding out the gears, & push'n the twins"

I agree, Once your under 13' seconds in the quarter, it does not matter really who is faster.... unless of course your brothers, and then everything is a competition...