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AJPTurbo Meth Tune.

Started by StealBlueSho, June 02, 2017, 04:35:32 PM

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StealBlueSho

LMS has barely above stock boost... and half this forum uses them. It's not all about boost :-)

BOT_ROCKET

I know there is a lot to be gained with spark, but he told me we still had a lot of headroom for boost as well. He was running into some problems getting the boost to actually increase, though. No matter what he tried, the boost was sitting tight. I sent him an email a couple weeks ago, but I'm guessing it go lost in the mess of alcoholic SHO madness.

I'll try again later, but I'm not in a huge hurry since I'm hoping I can get my intake put together soonish, which I assume will require a tune revision anyway.
'17 Fusion Sport 2.7l Ecoboost AWD
Ortiz Tune  (in progress)

2017 Ford Fusion Sport, 1st stock run: 8.98 @ 77.15 MPH

StealBlueSho

#62
Just a weekend update... Brad and I going back to the drawing board... with the meth spray, knock, and fuel pressure are no longer an issue. You can drop enough HP/TQ to blow the motor before running out of fuel...

In any event, due to traction issues from a dig, my strategy being unique in that the normal approaches seem to not work, and a few other interesting things, we are going to try a different approach.

Being able to take a vette from a roll is nice, but we need to find a way to get the power down to the ground from a dig... suspension and DR's are a thought.. but can't run DR's on the street...

Trying to find out how to lower boost just in first and second gear...

As always Brad is phenomenal to work with! And I have absolutely no guilt taking his time away from my fellow ecoboosters   >:D >:D

Brucelinc

Dammit, Steal and the rest of you guys,  my car is the slowest one here so I deserve the most of Brad's time!   :laughing1:

BOT_ROCKET

Quote from: Brucelinc on June 17, 2017, 02:26:47 PM
Dammit, Steal and the rest of you guys,  my car is the slowest one here so I deserve the most of Brad's time!   :laughing1:

If you have the 3.0L, I would argue that mine is the slowest. As far as I can tell (he hasn't told me what he's done specifically, and I'm not that great at reading the logs), my tune mostly consists of reduced nannies, shift changes, and only minor tweaks to things that actually increase power. Now, I could be mistaken since my butt dyno is useless and I haven't been to the track since stock, but aside from a stronger launch, it doesn't feel all that much faster.
'17 Fusion Sport 2.7l Ecoboost AWD
Ortiz Tune  (in progress)

2017 Ford Fusion Sport, 1st stock run: 8.98 @ 77.15 MPH

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 17, 2017, 01:55:27 PM
Just a weekend update... Brad and I going back to the drawing board... with the meth spray, knock, and fuel pressure are no longer an issue. You can drop enough HP/TQ to blow the motor before running out of fuel...

In any event, due to traction issues from a dig, my strategy being unique in that the normal approaches seem to not work, and a few other interesting things, we are going to try a different approach.

Being able to take a vette from a roll is nice, but we need to find a way to get the power down to the ground from a dig... suspension and DR's are a thought.. but can't run DR's on the street...

Trying to find out how to lower boost just in first and second gear...

As always Brad is phenomenal to work with! And I have absolutely no guilt taking his time away from my fellow ecoboosters   >:D >:D
I bet his wife hates us, lol....


StealBlueSho

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on June 17, 2017, 10:11:08 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 17, 2017, 01:55:27 PM
Just a weekend update... Brad and I going back to the drawing board... with the meth spray, knock, and fuel pressure are no longer an issue. You can drop enough HP/TQ to blow the motor before running out of fuel...

In any event, due to traction issues from a dig, my strategy being unique in that the normal approaches seem to not work, and a few other interesting things, we are going to try a different approach.

Being able to take a vette from a roll is nice, but we need to find a way to get the power down to the ground from a dig... suspension and DR's are a thought.. but can't run DR's on the street...

Trying to find out how to lower boost just in first and second gear...

As always Brad is phenomenal to work with! And I have absolutely no guilt taking his time away from my fellow ecoboosters   >:D >:D
I bet his wife hates us, lol....

Depends on what he does with the money he is making :-)

lamrith

Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 17, 2017, 01:55:27 PM
Just a weekend update... Brad and I going back to the drawing board... with the meth spray, knock, and fuel pressure are no longer an issue. You can drop enough HP/TQ to blow the motor before running out of fuel...

In any event, due to traction issues from a dig, my strategy being unique in that the normal approaches seem to not work, and a few other interesting things, we are going to try a different approach.

Being able to take a vette from a roll is nice, but we need to find a way to get the power down to the ground from a dig... suspension and DR's are a thought.. but can't run DR's on the street...

Trying to find out how to lower boost just in first and second gear...

As always Brad is phenomenal to work with! And I have absolutely no guilt taking his time away from my fellow ecoboosters   >:D >:D
Interesting.  Hopefully he will throw a tune similar to the one you are scrapping my way, I would rather have traction issues that not...  Be interesting to see how it compares on my 13+.
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

StealBlueSho

#68
I'm interested in a heads up race against FoMoCoSHO and his corn fed beast...

Thinking I drop the psi in the tires, get em warm, and my comp 2's will hook nice so the PTU won't need to transfer as much to the rear... just enough to keep me from spinning...

Should probably try that....

dubcitySHO

Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 18, 2017, 05:26:09 PM
Thinking I drop the psi in the tires, get em warm, and my comp 2's will hook nice so the PTU won't need to transfer as much to the rear... just enough to keep me from spinning...

Have you found a way to get past the TQ15 off the line now? 

A race between you two would be awesome to see.
2018 Magnetic Metallic F-150 XLT FX4 SCrew, 20% 3M Tint, Currently researching reputable F-150 tuners....

StealBlueSho

Testing some theories... I will let you know... but my car appears to be less sensitive to tq15 in general...

Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 18, 2017, 11:13:04 PM
Testing some theories... I will let you know... but my car appears to be less sensitive to tq15 in general...
probably not as much of a concern for you since your SHO isnt your daily but . . brad raised the ts15 limit in one of my previous tunes and it completely disabled ts2(traction control). we pretty much gave up on it at that point since I drive mine in the snow.
be interested to see how yours reacts.


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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

StealBlueSho

#72
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on June 19, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 18, 2017, 11:13:04 PM
Testing some theories... I will let you know... but my car appears to be less sensitive to tq15 in general...
probably not as much of a concern for you since your SHO isnt your daily but . . brad raised the ts15 limit in one of my previous tunes and it completely disabled ts2(traction control). we pretty much gave up on it at that point since I drive mine in the snow.
be interested to see how yours reacts.


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Funny that... He tried the same stuff on mine... but my car literally wouldn't start.. anytime he touches the traction control setting on mine, it wont start. I have to get the car put back to stock before I can do anything with it.....

My car just does not behave normally... it just doesn't. Basic stuff yes, but once you get outside of the basic stuff its really test and tune because it just doesn't react the way you think it would.. LMS tunes do to some degree.. Torrie claimed everything under the sun was wrong with my car lol...

Example.. when tuning for E20 blends... Brad said it was strange that my strategy already had a table modified to recognize and adapt to E85 fuel stock!.. it clearly wasn't working... but it was there!

I just means more patience when it comes to working with my SHO... although, it runs like a mother f%$ker.. if you compare it to the cars I beat on the street... and datalogs...

TopherSho

Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on June 19, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 18, 2017, 11:13:04 PM
Testing some theories... I will let you know... but my car appears to be less sensitive to tq15 in general...
probably not as much of a concern for you since your SHO isnt your daily but . . brad raised the ts15 limit in one of my previous tunes and it completely disabled ts2(traction control). we pretty much gave up on it at that point since I drive mine in the snow.
be interested to see how yours reacts.


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Oh now that is interesting .. the advanced track.. or the evil stability control that cannot be turned of on non-preped?
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

StealBlueSho

Quote from: TopherSho on June 19, 2017, 08:24:57 PM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on June 19, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 18, 2017, 11:13:04 PM
Testing some theories... I will let you know... but my car appears to be less sensitive to tq15 in general...
probably not as much of a concern for you since your SHO isnt your daily but . . brad raised the ts15 limit in one of my previous tunes and it completely disabled ts2(traction control). we pretty much gave up on it at that point since I drive mine in the snow.
be interested to see how yours reacts.


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Oh now that is interesting .. the advanced track.. or the evil stability control that cannot be turned of on non-preped?

Traction control is different than Advanced Track.