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AJPTurbo Meth Tune.

Started by StealBlueSho, June 02, 2017, 04:35:32 PM

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bpd1151

Still on my factory ECM as it rolled off of/from the assembly line.

Since mine is technically a Non-PP, I am unable to completely disable the traction control protocols. Limit them, but not completely disable them.

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StealBlueSho

Quote from: bpd1151 on July 06, 2017, 04:03:05 PM
Still on my factory ECM as it rolled off of/from the assembly line.

Since mine is technically a Non-PP, I am unable to completely disable the traction control protocols. Limit them, but not completely disable them.

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Does advance track ever kick in during your launches?

bpd1151

You know, honestly, never paid attention.

I was/am more focused on my rpm's, as well as my boost gauge when launching.

Besides, I know in the back of my mind, based on all of my own previous experiences, that I'd be getting wheel spin upon launch anyways.

That spin has come in varying forms/degrees as my suspension, wheels, power levels, etc. have all changed over time.

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ZSHO

#93
It might be time for a set of Megan-Coilovers,powergrids such as bpd1151.  Z
I'm looking to take the H&R route Soon.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

StealBlueSho

Quote from: bpd1151 on July 06, 2017, 05:03:33 PM
You know, honestly, never paid attention.

I was/am more focused on my rpm's, as well as my boost gauge when launching.

Besides, I know in the back of my mind, based on all of my own previous experiences, that I'd be getting wheel spin upon launch anyways.

That spin has come in varying forms/degrees as my suspension, wheels, power levels, etc. have all changed over time.

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Would you say upgrading your suspension cut back at all on the wheel spin?

Trying to figure out how much more I want to go with this thing before calling it quits and being happy.


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SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

StealBlueSho

FLW?? Crap I am getting old if I have to ask what these acronyms stand for...

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

StealBlueSho

If this setup cannot make me happy... time for a new car...


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SHOdded

Happyness is always being redefined LOL.  To get something, you give up something.  Unavoidable.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

bpd1151

#100
Quote from: StealBlueSho on July 06, 2017, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on July 06, 2017, 05:03:33 PM
You know, honestly, never paid attention.

I was/am more focused on my rpm's, as well as my boost gauge when launching.

Besides, I know in the back of my mind, based on all of my own previous experiences, that I'd be getting wheel spin upon launch anyways.

That spin has come in varying forms/degrees as my suspension, wheels, power levels, etc. have all changed over time.

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Would you say upgrading your suspension cut back at all on the wheel spin?

Trying to figure out how much more I want to go with this thing before calling it quits and being happy.


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Absolutely upgrading the suspension helped TREMENDOUSLY.

Just reducing that squat in the rear upon immediate launch, as well as reigning in that horrible front end lift with stock suspension, is night and day difference.

At around $300 for a set of H&R's at each corner, it'd be foolish not to upgrade at least to those. Plenty of video's to support this.

Now, if you desire creme de la creme of suspension upgrades (at least as it pertains to this platform) then flip for the Megan Racing Coil Overs and those will net an even greater improvement over the H&R's.

Seriously though.

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bamsho

Steel, I let you know next Sarurday how the new H&Rs work on my car.  Intial try on a street in Mexico, showed very little wheel spin at launch.  So in theory that should be zero at th e track.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

ZSHO

#102
It seems pretty much a hands on application.  Z


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2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

StealBlueSho

I am going shut this one down for a time. Brad and I have worked out a meth tune for my car that seems to be working well. 15psi and 28 degrees of advance... we had a lot of hiccups along the way which not surprising as again, as I have previously stated many time that my car/strategy does not respond the same way as others.

The biggest issues remains of getting the power to the ground, we have not found a good way to curb the boost in first gear to prevent the ECU from cutting the load being sent to the PTU. Apparently this is a known issue on the 2010-2012 MY logic in the ECU that is not shared with the 2013+ MY SHO's.. hence why I am looking to upgrade the suspension..I am needing to get the tires warm and I can't brake boost... ECU shuts it down...

After 12+ revisions and testing I am done hammering the car for awhile. If I can get the car to hook I firmly believe I am looking at VERY low 12's, maybe with an exceptional launch and DA possibly clipping 11's...  This is based on datalogging times and street performance against a couple different Stingray Corvettes.. I have purposely been goading them so I can see what I got.. I have not lost... and they are low 12's high 11's depending...

My biggest concern is longevity putting this much power down... obviously the ECU is programmed to save its components, and we have been trying to by pass all of it.  Transmission/PTU/RDU and Engine are all a concern for me at this point... a dyno will confirm this but based on how the car feels I am pushing it... The datalogs from the last revision (and last one for now) are all healthy.

Oil change over the weekend was done, oil looked shot IMHO after 1800 miles but free of any debris. This morning had the Trans/PTU/RDU fluids swapped out...

At this point, until I can get a dyno done, I will be running the LMS 4+X Alky tune on the street since I am not worried about too much power with that one... after I get the dyno on AJPTurbo's tune, I might ask to dial it back depending on the numbers. If the numbers are good, I will load Brads tune.. I am hoping to stay under 500/500... regardless of 1/4ET's.




TopherSho

That "load cutting" @#$&ing ticks me off.  In manual mode it murders any hope of an instant throttle response. 

Back on topic .. thank you for your work, both you and AJP.  you guys are still pioneering where everyone else seems to stop.

Gj :)
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction