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Ordered Alky Meth from LMS... 2010-2012 has no Meth Tune?!?!

Started by StealBlueSho, May 23, 2017, 06:34:19 PM

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StealBlueSho

So... I ordered the Alky Meth Kit from LMS and payed the premium so I can get LMS support and the remote LMS Meth Tune.. formally Stage 5 right?! Well... I asked for an updated tune mid last week.. Alky is installed... no tune...

Called today and spoke to Ethan... he informed me to run the 4+X Race Tune since that is the best we have for the 2010-2012's right now... so I am like WTF?! Why did I spend the extra money to purchase this F%&king kit from LMS if there is no tune for it?! His response was that they were going to need to make one at some point for me... no time line... nothing...

So then the next questions... well... then what do I need to set the controller to for the 4+X race tune? No answer... just that he would leave a note for Anthony...

Seriously PISSED about this right now............  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:

glock-coma

Annnnnd this is how they make you get a dyno tune.....
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

glock-coma

2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

ZSHO

The best of my knowledge if you do not receive a response within 48hrs to make sure to call them directly IIRC. I'm hopeful Anthony will come through for ya. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

mrhighcaliber

Looks like I have some serious questions for lms before I purchase my meth kit next month. Stage 5 race was the top meth tune as I remember.

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SHOdded

Might be you just caught one of the less experienced guys at LME.  I am sure they have what you need, just take a nice, deeeeeep breath :D
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

StealBlueSho

Thanks guys, I have AJPTurbos email.... I just know from previous conversations with Brad he is not thrilled about tuning for it....

I run LMS and Brads tunes.... I load LMS when I am just looking for something a bit different... if I am going out to meet up with friends I load Brads tune....

I went with Alky through LMS so I can get LMS support and tunes with their kit since I don't trust Unleashed and Brad was not thrilled with tuning for meth...

Maybe I just got some newbie on the horn.... hoping for a better response tomorrow...

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: StealBlueSho on May 23, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Thanks guys, I have AJPTurbos email.... I just know from previous conversations with Brad he is not thrilled about tuning for it....

I run LMS and Brads tunes.... I load LMS when I am just looking for something a bit different... if I am going out to meet up with friends I load Brads tune....

I went with Alky through LMS so I can get LMS support and tunes with their kit since I don't trust Unleashed and Brad was not thrilled with tuning for meth...

Maybe I just got some newbie on the horn.... hoping for a better response tomorrow...
So are you gonna run this with an E85 blend?

I'd bet you can run straight corn and have of loads of rail pressure.



StealBlueSho

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 23, 2017, 11:19:50 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on May 23, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Thanks guys, I have AJPTurbos email.... I just know from previous conversations with Brad he is not thrilled about tuning for it....

I run LMS and Brads tunes.... I load LMS when I am just looking for something a bit different... if I am going out to meet up with friends I load Brads tune....

I went with Alky through LMS so I can get LMS support and tunes with their kit since I don't trust Unleashed and Brad was not thrilled with tuning for meth...

Maybe I just got some newbie on the horn.... hoping for a better response tomorrow...
So are you gonna run this with an E85 blend?

I'd bet you can run straight corn and have of loads of rail pressure.


There is a whole disclaimer from Alky Control inside the pump packages about how E85 will void the warranty on the pump as it can damage the internals...

Livernois Motorsports

What I said was, that they are currently developing a tune specifically for you. If I told you the tune would be done tomorrow and it wasn't you would be equally as irritated.
I am NOT a tuner, I communicate between the customer and the tuning department, I have expressed your concern and displeasure in the current process, but they are working on it. While you may see that as an open ended time line, I am working here for you, to make sure you have the best experience possible. Immediately jumping on the forums and berating us doesn't solve that. The "Squeaky Wheel" tactic works to an extent. As of Saturday, as far as I know you were yet to receive the alky kit, yet you had called and called regarding the tune. I don't want to argue, I don't want to fight. I just want to get you handled.

derfdog15

Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on May 24, 2017, 09:49:11 AM
What I said was, that they are currently developing a tune specifically for you. If I told you the tune would be done tomorrow and it wasn't you would be equally as irritated.
I am NOT a tuner, I communicate between the customer and the tuning department, I have expressed your concern and displeasure in the current process, but they are working on it. While you may see that as an open ended time line, I am working here for you, to make sure you have the best experience possible. Immediately jumping on the forums and berating us doesn't solve that. The "Squeaky Wheel" tactic works to an extent. As of Saturday, as far as I know you were yet to receive the alky kit, yet you had called and called regarding the tune. I don't want to argue, I don't want to fight. I just want to get you handled.

Wait, thats customer service^. Mocking the customer, and getting condescending. Wow, you guys get worse and worse.
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

ZSHO

In all fairness lets not stir the pot here!!!!. LMS has clarified that they are currently developing a tune specifically for the OP mods and should be done in a timely manner and should respect that and move on. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

StealBlueSho

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Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on May 24, 2017, 09:49:11 AM
What I said was, that they are currently developing a tune specifically for you. If I told you the tune would be done tomorrow and it wasn't you would be equally as irritated.
I am NOT a tuner, I communicate between the customer and the tuning department, I have expressed your concern and displeasure in the current process, but they are working on it. While you may see that as an open ended time line, I am working here for you, to make sure you have the best experience possible. Immediately jumping on the forums and berating us doesn't solve that. The "Squeaky Wheel" tactic works to an extent. As of Saturday, as far as I know you were yet to receive the alky kit, yet you had called and called regarding the tune. I don't want to argue, I don't want to fight. I just want to get you handled.


I was/am a bit irritated... but as you can imagine, I purchased an $900+ Methanol Kit from LMS BASED on the POSITIVE reviews I have read about this kit and the SUPPORT from LMS. I did ask if I could go ahead and request the tune before I got the kit so that by the time I got the kit installed it should be ready? I was told that was a smart decision.

The kit came in on Monday and was finished installing last night which I why I called to inquiry about the Meth tune which I requested last week.

Now the frustration could have been miscommunication and/or expectation related, perhaps I incorrectly assumed that since there are several members on this forum who have the Meth tune from LMS, that it would not take long to get one put together for my SPWN/Strategy.

But when I hear statements of "Your current 4+X tune is the hottest we have..." and "We are working on getting you a meth tune but they are currently working on a dual nozzle tune so your may come at somepoint around then.." and "You can run the 4+X tune with Meth without additional tuning..." and "There is no meth tune for the 2010-2012 but there is for the 2013+..."  and "There might have been a problem with the Meth tune for 2010-2012 MY.." I start to get frustrated as what I am hearing is that I have this $900 Meth kit just to cool the IAT's... which I could get for 1/3 price if that was my goal..

I had even emailed/called to verify that there is a meth tune before ordering, it can be done remotely without a dyno, and that I would be given simple instructions on how to configure the controller. Then to hear that there is no tune? You can image my frustration...

There are people on this forum looking to purchase the Alky Meth Kit from LMS who have the 2010-2012 MY SHO...and I know there are people on this forum who run the stage 5 tune on their 2010-2012 MY SHO...  It might be beneficial for other people to understand the issues surrounding the kits.. such as no readily available tune...

If this is all just a miss communication and misunderstanding the I apologize for the rant ahead of time. I work in sales as well, and one of the BIGGEST things to get right is setting customer expectations. If these things had been communicated upfront before I placed my order, then perhaps I would not have been as disappointed or as you so aptly posted "A Sqeaky Wheel"..

FWIW: I emailed once requesting an updated tune.. and another email 5 days later asking on status.. followed by the FIRST phone call about the status of the tune later that day.  I did call two additional times attempting to get a receipt or a tracking number which I eventually called Alky Control who provided me one without issue since it was shipped out the day I ordered it.  Not quite sure how calling once concerning about the status of the tune is "Calling and calling"... 

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: StealBlueSho on May 24, 2017, 08:02:51 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 23, 2017, 11:19:50 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on May 23, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Thanks guys, I have AJPTurbos email.... I just know from previous conversations with Brad he is not thrilled about tuning for it....

I run LMS and Brads tunes.... I load LMS when I am just looking for something a bit different... if I am going out to meet up with friends I load Brads tune....

I went with Alky through LMS so I can get LMS support and tunes with their kit since I don't trust Unleashed and Brad was not thrilled with tuning for meth...

Maybe I just got some newbie on the horn.... hoping for a better response tomorrow...
So are you gonna run this with an E85 blend?

I'd bet you can run straight corn and have of loads of rail pressure.


There is a whole disclaimer from Alky Control inside the pump packages about how E85 will void the warranty on the pump as it can damage the internals...
No, I meant E85 in you primary gas tank with meth in your intake.

StealBlueSho

hmm... would be interesting... that would be an email off to Brad....