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13 needs rotors and pads; Powerstop

Started by geswek, August 15, 2015, 08:15:46 AM

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geswek

Looks like Powerstop finally has an actual brake kit for the SHO; not sure if this will work with the Performance Package or not--anyone have experience? I am do for brakes and pads.

Power Stop Z23
K6375 Front and Rear
http://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z16-kit/#y=2013&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS%20SHO

r1crusher

I'll tell you how they are early next week as I ordered this set back on Wednesday. :D  I got it all from autoanything.com for $440.54 and next day shipping but they apparently still shipped it as 2nd day according to my tracking information. :(

I think a few members have used power stop stuff and seem to be happy with them for street applications only.
'13 SHO, AJP Tune w/ 3-Bar
'17 F-250 6.7 PowerStroke
'17 XSport

geswek

I've used them on my diesel years ago. I looked at rotors and pads shortly after I got my car but nobody had them until now I suppose.

You have the performance package? That's my issue, I can't tell if the kit works for PP SHO or not since I have thicker pads than non-PP.


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SHOdded

#3
Did you see a "Top Cop" package for the Powerstop kit?  That used to be the PI/PP offering from them.

EDIT:  Looks like you have to buy the pads & rotors separately.
2010-12 PP:  Front : Z37-1158  Rear : Z37-1377
2013+ PI:  Front : Z37-1611  Rear : Z37-1612
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

geswek

#4
OH, so if I get the Top Cop pad's; those are the thicker pads that I have on my PP car?

It looks like I would need all of this to make set;

Rotors Front: AR85141XPR
Rotors Rear: AR85142XPR

Pads Front: Z37-1611 (Z37 Top Cop)
Pads Rear: Z37-1612 (Z37 Top Cop)

r1crusher

Quote from: geswek on August 15, 2015, 10:06:07 AM
I've used them on my diesel years ago. I looked at rotors and pads shortly after I got my car but nobody had them until now I suppose.

You have the performance package? That's my issue, I can't tell if the kit works for PP SHO or not since I have thicker pads than non-PP.


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Non-PP for me which is why I just got the std kit offering which should still be way better than stock...I'm hoping at least.
'13 SHO, AJP Tune w/ 3-Bar
'17 F-250 6.7 PowerStroke
'17 XSport

Mac98SHO

I have the Performance Pack,  The Brakes and Rotor from the Factory are the best you can get in my humble opinion(unless you want wilkwoods).  If anything I would use stock rotors and upgrade you pads, if you looking to improve stopping. If you looking for esthetics then I guess those will work.

I have road coursed my car, several times, and trust me when I say if I had those rotors(depicted in website picture) I would crack them easily.  I have a friend with Carbotech pads and uses stock rotors, his has more bite than my factory pads, but also are noisier when stopping on the street. I am thinking about upgrading the pads... but for all around performance I can not beat the Factory Performance Pads.

Our rotors are reverse hat to aid in cooling them, and have more mass to help dissipate the heat.

My 2 cents :)
2013 SHO w/Performance Package (Tuxedo Black)
Air Raid Intake
X-pipe with Stock Mufflers
X4 SCT w/Unleashed Tunes

SHOdded

Quote from: geswek on August 15, 2015, 11:48:23 AM
OH, so if I get the Top Cop pad's; those are the thicker pads that I have on my PP car?
I think so, but best to call PowerStop to confirm.

Mac's suggestion has great merit, make SURE you get the PP rotors though, apparently  that's not a guarantee even from the factory!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Mac98SHO

Quote from: SHOdded on August 15, 2015, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: geswek on August 15, 2015, 11:48:23 AM
OH, so if I get the Top Cop pad's; those are the thicker pads that I have on my PP car?
I think so, but best to call PowerStop to confirm.

Mac's suggestion has great merit, make SURE you get the PP rotors though, apparently  that's not a guarantee even from the factory!

The performance rotor have more veins to cool quicker than non-performance.  My friend did the up grade for his 2013 SHO without the package, and he compared them.

*Tidbit* When rotors have Slots and cross drilling, you give up surface area.. which your pads need to stop... also reducing said surface area will not allow the rotor to dissipate heat evenly, and cracking can happen, and most often does with cross drilled rotors.

My rotors are a beautiful hue of blue, and some pad transfer still left on them from Blackhawk Farms Raceway.... LOL
2013 SHO w/Performance Package (Tuxedo Black)
Air Raid Intake
X-pipe with Stock Mufflers
X4 SCT w/Unleashed Tunes

geswek

Does anyone have legitimate PN's for the rotors and pads from a PP?

I emailed TASCA and they sent me a quote ($300 for rotors and pads) and say they are for 2013 SHO PP vehicle.

Mac98SHO

Quote from: geswek on August 15, 2015, 02:54:04 PM
Does anyone have legitimate PN's for the rotors and pads from a PP?

I emailed TASCA and they sent me a quote ($300 for rotors and pads) and say they are for 2013 SHO PP vehicle.

Go here and enter your VIN

http://www.fordparts.com/Default.aspx

Front pads:BRF-1435
Rotor: BRRF-112

Those seem familiar..
2013 SHO w/Performance Package (Tuxedo Black)
Air Raid Intake
X-pipe with Stock Mufflers
X4 SCT w/Unleashed Tunes

BiGMaC

Also not that the PP pads contact more of the peripheral area of the rotor than the nonPP pads... This should make them stronger stoppers if the MCs are equal.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

66 Galaxie

#12
Towards outside only or also to the inside/center of rotor, do you have a pic?
'14 Flex Tuxedo Black ecoboost

BiGMaC

Quote from: 66 Galaxie on August 15, 2015, 11:01:20 PM
Towards outside only or also to the inside/center of rotor, do you have a pic?
Towards the outside... Sorry, no pic but the PP is rounded following the circumference of the disk while the nonPP is straight across the periphery with the dye parallel to the disk diameter.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!