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Incorrect AFR at WOT Help!!

Started by kskrew4life, July 26, 2015, 08:59:14 PM

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kskrew4life

Quote from: SHOdded on August 09, 2015, 05:55:44 AM
BG44K is generally considered a superior FI cleaner, but Techron is also very very good (OEM recommendation from BMW, e.g.).  Neither will get any carbon on the backs of the intake valves, but anything from the fuel tank to the combustion chamber to the valve faces will get cleaned out.  I recently put up a thread about ACES IV, which MIGHT work on the back of the valves also, but little data on that.

No Costco?  These are Top Tier stations:
http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers/


Valero is about 5 miles from where i live, guess i will try them next time, attached is a log i took while cruising. the kr gets high when cruise control is active going over hills. I still cnt hear anything out of the ordinary ... i dont see these readings at WOT

kskrew4life

Quote from: ZSHO on August 09, 2015, 08:18:48 AM
I certainly agree with SHOdded,and definetly pour a can of B.G 44K fuel system cleaner in your tank at least every oil change for optimum performance especialy if your limited to top tier gasoline in your area,have been using BG-44K and Chevron techron for quite sometime now and definetly would recommend them,personaly like the BG product thats in a can and the label clearly says made for DGI.  Z


I didnt find the B.G 44k in Autozone.. one of the assistance said you can only get that from the dealership ??.. i  pick up the techron and will use it next time i fill up

BiGMaC

#122
BG products are apparently only available through BG dealers.  The website will find you one.

Has anyone used the BG Gasoline Direct Injection Cleaner (their part #s 271 and 272?

BTW... BMW recommends Shell Nito Plus officially... I personally didn't like how my SHO ran on it.  Shell is giving away a Beamer a day for 100 days to get you to try it.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

FoMoCoSHO


SHOdded

#124
Techron should work great.  If you do an OC after you've run thru the tank, you will be even happier :)

BG products can be had off EBay or Amazon or many local service shops.  Go to http://bgprod.com to find the service shops in your area.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO

#125
I ordered mine through Amazon twice,make sure to get it from (TOOL DEALS)because due to the great ratings and the original B.G products come in a can and not a plastic bottle.  Z      http://www.amazon.com/Products-ISC-Induction-System-Cleaner/dp/B00SWZBAOK/ref=pd_sim_263_16?ie=UTF8&refRID=19Q19SQ4PDKP411HF8YN           http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K0TA7WW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

kskrew4life

Quote from: SHOdded on August 09, 2015, 07:40:36 PM
Techron should work great.  If you do an OC after you've run thru the tank, you will be even happier :)

BG products can be had off EBay or Amazon or many local service shops.  Go to http://bgprod.com to find the service shops in your area.

Thanks man! there is an AD literally right down the street from me i'll check it out

kskrew4life

Quote from: ZSHO on August 09, 2015, 07:53:27 PM
I ordered mine through Amazon twice,make sure to get it from (TOOL DEALS)because due to the great ratings and the original B.G products come in a can and not a plastic bottle.  Z      http://www.amazon.com/Products-ISC-Induction-System-Cleaner/dp/B00SWZBAOK/ref=pd_sim_263_16?ie=UTF8&refRID=19Q19SQ4PDKP411HF8YN           http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K0TA7WW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

how do u get into the capless gas inlet? funnel?

ZSHO

Quote from: kskrew4life on August 09, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 09, 2015, 07:53:27 PM
I ordered mine through Amazon twice,make sure to get it from (TOOL DEALS)because due to the great ratings and the original B.G products come in a can and not a plastic bottle.  Z      http://www.amazon.com/Products-ISC-Induction-System-Cleaner/dp/B00SWZBAOK/ref=pd_sim_263_16?ie=UTF8&refRID=19Q19SQ4PDKP411HF8YN           http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K0TA7WW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

how do u get into the capless gas inlet? funnel?
I think you have to stick it in.lol ,not sur if you have the PP,cause usually its in the trunk by the inflator,my previous non pp did not have one so purchased a regular one and put some black tape at the bottom portion of it until it it opened it.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

glock-coma


Quote from: kskrew4life on August 09, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 09, 2015, 07:53:27 PM
I ordered mine through Amazon twice,make sure to get it from (TOOL DEALS)because due to the great ratings and the original B.G products come in a can and not a plastic bottle.  Z      http://www.amazon.com/Products-ISC-Induction-System-Cleaner/dp/B00SWZBAOK/ref=pd_sim_263_16?ie=UTF8&refRID=19Q19SQ4PDKP411HF8YN           http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K0TA7WW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

how do u get into the capless gas inlet? funnel?

I picked up one of these from advance for about $4
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

ZSHO

#130
Quote from: BiGMaC on August 09, 2015, 05:17:53 PM
BG products are apparently only available through BG dealers.  The website will find you one.

Has anyone used the BG Gasoline Direct Injection Cleaner (their part #s 271 and 272?

BTW... BMW recommends Shell Nito Plus officially... I personally didn't like how my SHO ran on it.  Shell is giving away a Beamer a day for 100 days to get you to try it.
Intresting article based on the part #mentioned above,might give it a try.  Z      https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/gasoline-fuel-system/bg-gasoline-direct-injection-cleaner/


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

kskrew4life

Quote from: ZSHO on August 09, 2015, 10:18:40 PM
Quote from: BiGMaC on August 09, 2015, 05:17:53 PM
BG products are apparently only available through BG dealers.  The website will find you one.

Has anyone used the BG Gasoline Direct Injection Cleaner (their part #s 271 and 272?

BTW... BMW recommends Shell Nito Plus officially... I personally didn't like how my SHO ran on it.  Shell is giving away a Beamer a day for 100 days to get you to try it.
Intresting article based on the part #mentioned above,might give it a try.  Z      https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/gasoline-fuel-system/bg-gasoline-direct-injection-cleaner/

pretty interesting indeed. i have 65k on the car never used any cleaners/aditive.. seems like i have a few things to try out. Torrie sent me a revision after i sent him the 2 logs i posted here. i will run it tommorrow and see if kr readings change

SHOdded

#132
Wonder what Torrie found to adjust in the tune.  Would be great if it is a "software" thing.  But still doesn't take away from the need to periodically run cleaners through the air/fuel system.  Hopefully no fuel pump involvement.

EDIT:  Pedal to the metal action is recommended to clear out the carbon cobwebs, so don't avoid it :)
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

kskrew4life

Quote from: SHOdded on August 10, 2015, 05:01:14 AM
Wonder what Torrie found to adjust in the tune.  Would be great if it is a "software" thing.  But still doesn't take away from the need to periodically run cleaners through the air/fuel system.  Hopefully no fuel pump involvement.

EDIT:  Pedal to the metal action is recommended to clear out the carbon cobwebs, so don't avoid it :)


Im not sure what he found, but with his revision the problem seems to have vanished.. check log below.. i need to log going over long steep hills next

SHOdded

Definitely significantly reduced, not completely gone, which is OK.  Seems to happen more now when easing off the throttle.  The AFR's and spark advance's are now mirroring each other pretty well, which is good also.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!