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Incorrect AFR at WOT Help!!

Started by kskrew4life, July 26, 2015, 08:59:14 PM

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curry67

i have seem to be having problems with my o2 sensors aswell but i also have a knock issue so seeing your logs with 0 a max makes me depressed lol

SHOnUup

Datalogging, great for pinpointing issues gone wrong.

Rich
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
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AJP turbo

Quote from: curry67 on August 07, 2015, 08:47:05 PM
i have seem to be having problems with my o2 sensors aswell but i also have a knock issue so seeing your logs with 0 a max makes me depressed lol

Fix your O2 sensor and go from there...these systems are so complex and dependent of other things u could have a multitude of things going on...for instance there are spark and fuel modifiers for lengths of time spent at various afr's....so if the afr is at a certain amount for so long it may see fit to modify spark or fuel. These compensations will be on top of base tables......fix the sensor as I thought we identified that issue at least earlier....I'm losing track..can remember if that was u or brewer
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curry67

Got some new fuel from different top tier brand knock as high as 7 now. The afr2 went to 0 a few times bit otherwise it appears to be working.

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FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: curry67 on August 07, 2015, 10:56:55 PM
Got some new fuel from different top tier brand knock as high as 7 now. The afr2 went to 0 a few times bit otherwise it appears to be working.

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My AFRs randomly go to zero and both cars behaved the same.

curry67

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 07, 2015, 11:15:30 PM
Quote from: curry67 on August 07, 2015, 10:56:55 PM
Got some new fuel from different top tier brand knock as high as 7 now. The afr2 went to 0 a few times bit otherwise it appears to be working.

Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk
My AFRs randomly go to zero and both cars behaved the same.

so it going to 0 randomly for a few seconds is ok?

AJP turbo

Quote from: curry67 on August 07, 2015, 10:56:55 PM
Got some new fuel from different top tier brand knock as high as 7 now. The afr2 went to 0 a few times bit otherwise it appears to be working.

Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk

Sometimes data stream can get disrupted  and you will see 0 for a split second but it shouldn't happen very often....So if it went to 0 a few times then I don't know if I would say It appears to be working ....Doesn't sound good...I forget, did I look at one of your logs?

Just saw your new post....But NO! a few seconds is not ok....A tiny blip is the data stream being lost
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: ajpturbo on August 07, 2015, 11:26:05 PM
Quote from: curry67 on August 07, 2015, 10:56:55 PM
Got some new fuel from different top tier brand knock as high as 7 now. The afr2 went to 0 a few times bit otherwise it appears to be working.

Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk

Sometimes data stream can get disrupted  and you will see 0 for a split second but it shouldn't happen very often....So if it went to 0 a few times then I don't know if I would say It appears to be working ....Doesn't sound good...I forget, did I look at one of your logs?

Just saw your new post....But NO! a few seconds is not ok....A tiny blip is the data stream being lost
AJP's explanation is what I have experienced running Torque, Dashcommand, OBDLink, etc......


AJP turbo

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 07, 2015, 11:30:33 PM
Quote from: ajpturbo on August 07, 2015, 11:26:05 PM
Quote from: curry67 on August 07, 2015, 10:56:55 PM
Got some new fuel from different top tier brand knock as high as 7 now. The afr2 went to 0 a few times bit otherwise it appears to be working.

Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk

Sometimes data stream can get disrupted  and you will see 0 for a split second but it shouldn't happen very often....So if it went to 0 a few times then I don't know if I would say It appears to be working ....Doesn't sound good...I forget, did I look at one of your logs?

Just saw your new post....But NO! a few seconds is not ok....A tiny blip is the data stream being lost
AJP's explanation is what I have experienced running Torque, Dashcommand, OBDLink, etc......

My old mustang was terrible, I think because of the cave man processor..The more items you log the worse it is. SOme PID's take more memory or something like that....I think its like bandwidth...SOme PID's require a lot of it...Or sampling rate I dunno....I notice better quality logs when I reduced the amount of paramters I log
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

curry67

Cave man sensor lol?

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AJP turbo

cave man processor in the older ECU's
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

ecoboostsho

Quote from: ajpturbo on August 07, 2015, 11:44:57 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 07, 2015, 11:30:33 PM
Quote from: ajpturbo on August 07, 2015, 11:26:05 PM
Quote from: curry67 on August 07, 2015, 10:56:55 PM
Got some new fuel from different top tier brand knock as high as 7 now. The afr2 went to 0 a few times bit otherwise it appears to be working.

Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk

Sometimes data stream can get disrupted  and you will see 0 for a split second but it shouldn't happen very often....So if it went to 0 a few times then I don't know if I would say It appears to be working ....Doesn't sound good...I forget, did I look at one of your logs?

Just saw your new post....But NO! a few seconds is not ok....A tiny blip is the data stream being lost
AJP's explanation is what I have experienced running Torque, Dashcommand, OBDLink, etc......

My old mustang was terrible, I think because of the cave man processor..The more items you log the worse it is. SOme PID's take more memory or something like that....I think its like bandwidth...SOme PID's require a lot of it...Or sampling rate I dunno....I notice better quality logs when I reduced the amount of paramters I log
You would be correct. Certain PIDs do indeed return more information (multiple bytes) where as others simply don't need the resolution and use less bits...
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kskrew4life

Has anyone else notice 5+ kr at cruising speed while on cruise control? under WOT kr is -4 to =1 (which is normal) odd that im seeing knock at cruising since not altof load is on the engine

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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!