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Rx Catch Can Install on Explorer Sport

Started by JimiJak, April 06, 2014, 09:49:25 AM

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MiWiAu

#135
Quote from: avidmotion on September 13, 2016, 10:45:50 AM
Has anyone put this system on a 2010-2014 SHO, have any directions for install or any insights? Thanks

Check out glock-coma's post #75 in this thread. Looks like he put the monster can on his 2010 SHO in front of the driver's side fender.

Also, I'm not sure from where you ordered your RX, but I got mine from TeamRXP, and they were able to e-mail me a 6 page word doc noting the install procedure for the Explorer. It couldn't hurt to call/email and ask. All I got in the box was a note basically saying "go look on youtube", so I'm glad I had the supplemental instructions handy. I did my own custom install, but I used their instructions (and JimiJak's tips) as reference to make sure I was plugging into the correct areas.

I've attached an image of the plumbing provided to me by RXP for the Explorer. I imagine the SHO would be similar.

Remember to install the check valves pointing away from the can.
2013 XSport

glock-coma

I installed the standard size not the monster.
It did fit quite well behind  the drivers side front bumper right next to the horn.
I actual utilized part of the horn bracket assembly to mount the can. 
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

avidmotion

I purchased from same place Team RXP.Hopefully I have the updated version, just got it labor day weekend. I did not get instructions for install just a little piece of paper to hp to YouTube see install on a truck.
Sp542@.028, windstorm CAI, MSD coils, AO GH TUNE, GH intercooler, All Amsoil, General Gmax-rs summer tires, +PP, PP PADS,EDC rotors, Colinite 476s wax, used PPE DPs, Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete with custom X pipe, Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts|, 3 bar, stock thermostat,  TRACY LEWIS DESIGNED Team RXP, the Original oil separator.

MiWiAu

I just got mine last Friday and installed it this past weekend on my XSport. Nice can. There were several parts I did not end up using, since I didn't really follow their instructions to the letter. In addition, they provided me one 90-degree PCV connector and 2 straight connectors. The straight connectors didn't work for me, so I ended up hacking up an OE hose from the clean side to the charge pipe.

Here are some instructions for fascia removal for a 2010 SHO. I used the X version for my install to get to the void behind the drivers side front fender.

http://blueox.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/BX2643-3.pdf

Any idea how similar the SHO plumbing is to the XSport? I was going to post up some pictures of my install in the next day or so to show some of how I did mine. Not a full-on "how-to" per se, but should give a pretty good overview. JimiJak and glock-coma did a nice job on their write ups on earlier pages here. I used many of their suggestions.
2013 XSport

avidmotion

Ok, nearly done....I used the horn spot in front fender. I didn't want to drill. I didn't want to hack the stock hoses.
The right port goes to rear valve cover with check valve inline. I have the CSS . So hose off front valve cover to charge pipe.  Valve cover capped.
So RX CSS oil filler cap hose has check valve and goes to T on fitting coming out of charge pipe. Other side of T goes to other outside fitting on the can. I used the vacuum from the intake manifold to the middle port on the can. I needed 4 ft of hose and got clamps for the check vales and T....I love have pics and better write up later when my mechanic finishes up and gives me the pics.
Sp542@.028, windstorm CAI, MSD coils, AO GH TUNE, GH intercooler, All Amsoil, General Gmax-rs summer tires, +PP, PP PADS,EDC rotors, Colinite 476s wax, used PPE DPs, Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete with custom X pipe, Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts|, 3 bar, stock thermostat,  TRACY LEWIS DESIGNED Team RXP, the Original oil separator.

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

MiWiAu

#141
Quote from: avidmotion on September 14, 2016, 03:23:54 PM
Ok, nearly done....I used the horn spot in front fender. I didn't want to drill. I didn't want to hack the stock hoses.
The right port goes to rear valve cover with check valve inline. I have the CSS . So hose off front valve cover to charge pipe.  Valve cover capped.
So RX CSS oil filler cap hose has check valve and goes to T on fitting coming out of charge pipe. Other side of T goes to other outside fitting on the can. I used the vacuum from the intake manifold to the middle port on the can. I needed 4 ft of hose and got clamps for the check vales and T....I love have pics and better write up later when my mechanic finishes up and gives me the pics.

Did you see the schematic in post #135? If I'm interpreting your installation correctly, you have port "C" running to the rear valve cover? The center port "B" should be running to the rear valve cover.

Ports "A" and "C" receive a vacuum (flow away) from the can and pull the "dirty" air in to port B (center port) from the rear valve cover - NO CHECK VALVE REQUIRED on the center port, since this should only be flowing in one direction at all times (into the can). One of these, A or C (doesn't matter which), should pull from the side of the intake manifold. The other should pull off the charge pipe(s). When hooked up properly, the can will always be pulling vacuum into either Port A or C. When under boost, vacuum will come from the charge pipes, when not under boost, the IM.

EDIT: Check out this image: http://www.rxspeedworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/rx-catch-can.jpg

Per an e-mail exchange I had with RXP, under normal operating circumstances, the CSS will pull vacuum (fresh air). Their diagram shows the css being installed in the top (clean) side of the airbox where vacuum is minimal. If memory serves, without reading back through the entire thread, I think JimiJak re-routed his CSS from the charge tube to the airbox. If you want to keep yours installed on the charge tube, make sure the check valve points towards the CSS, otherwise you might pull oil from the valve cover under boost. I vented my CSS to atmosphere with a small push-on filter - I'll try to get pictures posted later tonight. I will only install a check valve if I notice crankcase vapors in my garage.
2013 XSport

avidmotion


Also on OUR set up the out ports  on the can, one from the passenger valve cover which has the check valve with arrow facing the can so flow WILL go that way. Middle port goes to manifold has no check valve and pulls vacuum out of can to manifold. Last outside port goes to the T of the charge pipe (previous B) and the CSS, with the check valve arrow facing the T, and cut in 4 inches from the CSS, flow leaving the CSS going towards the can. Sound ok
Sp542@.028, windstorm CAI, MSD coils, AO GH TUNE, GH intercooler, All Amsoil, General Gmax-rs summer tires, +PP, PP PADS,EDC rotors, Colinite 476s wax, used PPE DPs, Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete with custom X pipe, Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts|, 3 bar, stock thermostat,  TRACY LEWIS DESIGNED Team RXP, the Original oil separator.

MiWiAu

Sounds like something is still amiss, but before I comment further, I wanted to confirm I'm reading your setup properly.

If I interpret correctly you have:

OCC Outside Port 1 > Check Valve pointing TOWARDS can > Connects to Rear Valve Cover
OCC Middle Port > Direct connect to Intake Manifold (No Check Valve)
OCC Outside Port 2 > Check valve between OCC Port 2 and "T" (pointing AWAY from can) > T branches to CSS and Charge Pipe

Sorry for giving you the third degree. I'm worried something isn't right here, and I'm just trying to help.

2013 XSport

glock-coma

Quote from: MiWiAu on September 14, 2016, 03:43:27 PM
Quote from: avidmotion on September 14, 2016, 03:23:54 PM
Ok, nearly done....I used the horn spot in front fender. I didn't want to drill. I didn't want to hack the stock hoses.
The right port goes to rear valve cover with check valve inline. I have the CSS . So hose off front valve cover to charge pipe.  Valve cover capped.
So RX CSS oil filler cap hose has check valve and goes to T on fitting coming out of charge pipe. Other side of T goes to other outside fitting on the can. I used the vacuum from the intake manifold to the middle port on the can. I needed 4 ft of hose and got clamps for the check vales and T....I love have pics and better write up later when my mechanic finishes up and gives me the pics.

Did you see the schematic in post #135? If I'm interpreting your installation correctly, you have port "C" running to the rear valve cover? The center port "B" should be running to the rear valve cover.

Ports "A" and "C" receive a vacuum (flow away) from the can and pull the "dirty" air in to port B (center port) from the rear valve cover - NO CHECK VALVE REQUIRED on the center port, since this should only be flowing in one direction at all times (into the can). One of these, A or C (doesn't matter which), should pull from the side of the intake manifold. The other should pull off the charge pipe(s). When hooked up properly, the can will always be pulling vacuum into either Port A or C. When under boost, vacuum will come from the charge pipes, when not under boost, the IM.

EDIT: Check out this image: http://www.rxspeedworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/rx-catch-can.jpg

Per an e-mail exchange I had with RXP, under normal operating circumstances, the CSS will pull vacuum (fresh air). Their diagram shows the css being installed in the top (clean) side of the airbox where vacuum is minimal. If memory serves, without reading back through the entire thread, I think JimiJak re-routed his CSS from the charge tube to the airbox. If you want to keep yours installed on the charge tube, make sure the check valve points towards the CSS, otherwise you might pull oil from the valve cover under boost. I vented my CSS to atmosphere with a small push-on filter - I'll try to get pictures posted later tonight. I will only install a check valve if I notice crankcase vapors in my garage.
Excellent explanation MiWiAu
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

ZSHO

Definitely some pic's will be viable in the process.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

MiWiAu

Quote from: ZSHO on September 14, 2016, 04:50:20 PM
Definitely some pic's will be viable in the process.  Z

Totally! :)

Avidmotion, even if you could upload a napkin sketch of what you have while you're waiting on pictures from your mechanic, it would be helpful to confirm everything is hooked up correctly before everything goes back together.
2013 XSport

avidmotion

progress on hold, we misunderstood the flow of the can, and direction of flow. In my set up, obviously  fouled, I thought we were to pull the vapor from the valve covers, and the intake manifold pulls vacuum out of can....this is wrong arrows on check valve go away from can, and I got the middle port and "c" ports crossed. And I need to drill the top of airbox and skip the T. Everything at stock to I figure it out tomorrow,  take new pics, document and see if it starts. Thanks for the. Once it all good I makea sticky for the SHO,  a little different then the trucks.
Sp542@.028, windstorm CAI, MSD coils, AO GH TUNE, GH intercooler, All Amsoil, General Gmax-rs summer tires, +PP, PP PADS,EDC rotors, Colinite 476s wax, used PPE DPs, Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete with custom X pipe, Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts|, 3 bar, stock thermostat,  TRACY LEWIS DESIGNED Team RXP, the Original oil separator.

MiWiAu

Quote from: avidmotion on September 14, 2016, 05:46:13 PM
progress on hold, we misunderstood the flow of the can, and direction of flow. In my set up, obviously  fouled, I thought we were to pull the vapor from the valve covers, and the intake manifold pulls vacuum out of can....this is wrong arrows on check valve go away from can, and I got the middle port and "c" ports crossed. And I need to drill the top of airbox and skip the T. Everything at stock to I figure it out tomorrow,  take new pics, document and see if it starts. Thanks for the. Once it all good I makea sticky for the SHO,  a little different then the trucks.

Cool, man! Sounds like you're on the right track to getting it worked out. :)

If you want to use the "T", it would be to pull from both the front and rear charge pipes. These would splice together and run to either port A or C to provide vacuum under boost. I did this with mine, but from earlier posts in this thread, it sounds like it is optional to tap both front and rear charge pipes.

I'm new around these parts, but my impression is that the SHO and XSport have fairly similar setups - much more so than either vs the longitudinal F150. The schematic I posted earlier is for the transverse 3.5L EB, so it should still work for you. Hopefully one of the other SHO guys can confirm this for sure.

I just got my XSport about 3 weeks ago so I'm still learning, but the information here and the community has proven invaluable! Keep us posted on your progress. :)
2013 XSport

MiWiAu

2013 XSport