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160 why this thermostat now

Started by explorergotoluvit, March 08, 2014, 01:54:13 PM

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FoMoCoSHO


DJE624

The guy that posted right above my last post.

SwampRat

2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

black99lightning

Quote from: DJE624 on March 08, 2014, 06:16:11 PM
I'll be trying out the 160.  Hopefully next week.  I was totally fine with the 170 but LMS made me an offer I couldn't refuse, to try it out.  I will be posting a thread on the whole install with pics and before and after results testing the coolant temps and effect on interior heat.  From what LMS has told me, they felt that the 170 was too close to the 180 stock stat to really make a significant difference.  The 160 will.

Let me know what you do with your 170.
2013 Esport 13.44 @ 103.6
1999 Lightning 12.44 @ 108.4
2012 GT500 10.96 @ 130.6
2006 GTO 12.83 @ 107.8
2013 CTSV coupe 11.79 @ 119.7

SwampRat

I wonder what Torrie at Unleashed's thoughts on the160° t-stat would be ?

I'm thinkng about  PM ing him and ask him to chime in .
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

BiGMaC

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Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 08, 2014, 08:39:41 PM
http://autos.yahoo.com/maintain/repairqa/fluids_heat_air_conditioning/ques019_2.html

FYI. I'm Tom

Cool and concise article.  I can accept the statements even without knowing the author and with the "can =possibly" sections.  So no debate and points well taken.  :beer2:

I assume LMS, like any reputable tuner would,  has tested this recommendation with their vehicles on the dyno and on the street... but that is an assumption on my part, even if aside from the other unanswered CEL question. It may even be specific to the proprietary tune(s) of LMS.

As far as staying in an open loop which is definitely not good... Dave should know in a few minutes of driving if the engine is still at the higher revs of the startup mode at idle when his heater is working already (open T-stat). I think this will answer that question

I'm a bit on the fence in my thinking about it as far as the upper end of operating temp as I think about my first "SHO" summer in Phoenix traffic with ambient air temp 110-125 degrees regularly... is that going to damage my engine, can those two little fans, even in high mode, actually cope with this to keep the engine<195 degrees in stop and go traffic?  The next few months will tell I guess.... here in Phoenix at least i would think that starting to cool things sooner might give a longer run in the optimal operating range at least in the summer.

Overall I'm anxious to hear about Dave's real world testing as far as being too cold an operating temp with the colder T-stat... the car will tell him quickly as noted above.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock



DJE624

I will report exactly what I find out and as much as possible.  If I don't like the 160, I'll tell you all and go back to the 170.  No big deal.  (Although now that I put the stock air box back in, it's not going to be as easy as it was swapping TStat's as when I just pulled the tube on the Typhoon.)

BiGMaC

Quote from: DJE624 on March 08, 2014, 09:30:04 PM
I will report exactly what I find out and as much as possible.  If I don't like the 160, I'll tell you all and go back to the 170.  No big deal.  (Although now that I put the stock air box back in, it's not going to be as easy as it was swapping TStat's as when I just pulled the tube on the Typhoon.)

Thanks Dave!

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

Larrylu

Lots of interest in your testing Dave!
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

DJE624

Thanks Larry.  I hope it comes by Wed so I can get to it on my night off.  I'll do some testing on the 170 Tues night.

explorergotoluvit

mine will be on it way as well if any problems ill post
2013 explorer sport
LMS tuner stat 160 3 bar magna flow v8 91 map
k&n H&R spring
retrofit FXR bi-xenon projectors done by lightwerkz 
all lights replaced with leds from daytimebrightlites

DJE624

Sounds good. It will be great to have another opinion.  Especially in another model.