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Another 2013+ leaking valve cover...

Started by ecoboostsho, July 09, 2015, 09:16:46 AM

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ZSHO

Quote from: ecoboostsho on July 14, 2015, 11:52:00 AM
Good question.  I just got a call back from the dealer and they did indeed find the leak where I described (the #3 cylinder!) so they are going to replace the gasket, valve cover and the do the PVC oil TSB at the same time.  Unfortunately they need to keep it overnight to get parts but that wasn't a surprise given the earlier discussion in this thread so I should be good to go.

I was able to find a thread from a long time ago detailing out the correct firing order/cylinder orientation that indicated the 1,2,3 cylinders are in the back bank but I closed the window and I literally can't find it again in my search...it's driving me crazy!
I guess the PVC should also be corrected to PCV.LOL.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

ecoboostsho

2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

anthonylee337

Just got my car back after two days of inspection-also had a few recalls performed but no oil on my plugs and no leaks were found. Now time to clean all the technician grime and smudges!
2013 SHO tuxedo black ppkg LMS stage 4 K+N

ecoboostsho

Just got mine back as well and the leak is fixed and pcv valve has been replaced.
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

ZSHO

Quote from: anthonylee337 on July 15, 2015, 06:22:35 PM
Just got my car back after two days of inspection-also had a few recalls performed but no oil on my plugs and no leaks were found. Now time to clean all the technician grime and smudges!
I'm a bit confused,did you notice any leaks or any issues making you want to take it to the dealer. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

anthonylee337

Turned out to be nothing but some engine grime but definitely not oil-I have several friends that work at the dealership so they read up on the TSB and wanted to inspect my car for at least a day. All plugs were checked and the entire car from engine to underbelly was checked for leaks. They also know about my tune so service was reluctant to perform the power steering recall because they won't hook up anything to my computer so that was inspected and passed all tests. I am relieved that nothing had to be changed or repaired so it looks like I got lucky for once.
2013 SHO tuxedo black ppkg LMS stage 4 K+N

ZSHO

#36
These cars have an oil seperator with a baffle mounted on the rear valve cover and its held down by two 8m bolts,you can always check to see how much oil buildup in inside and clean it out,its similiar to an oil catch can which needs emptying,BTW there is only two 8mm bolts,there is no rear bolt by the firewall,its only a clip. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

ecoboostsho

#37
After running my still stock car for a few days after getting it back from having the leak fixed I noticed it felt slower...not slow but not like it should. I checked the LOR thinking maybe they reset the computer but that was fine at -1. I then looked at my other Torque gauges and realized the Max boost the car had seen over the last two days was about 5 psi.  I immediately thought that was odd because I know I had floored it earlier. I scanned it with torque and it said no DTCs but the PID that reads how many DTCs said one was set. I fired up FORSCAN and it immediately pulled a P0299 which is an underboost condition. Great... I thought. I checked all the piping and clamps but couldn't really find anything. I reset it and took it for a drive but same behavior and the code came right back. Popped the hood again and noticed the nut holding the top charge pipe was missing but whole annoying didn't see how that could be my problem. I started checking for loose connectors and then I saw a small connector hanging down and it was pretty clear it was unplugged. I honestly don't know now what this sensor is called but I think it compares boost levels from the intake and the manifold or maybe does something to the wastegate ultimately?? (Anyone know for sure) its the one in this pic with all the small hoses and clamps coming out of it right up front. (Not the MAP sensor you swap out for a tune).

Once I plugged it in and cleared the codes it ran great and all my boost is back! I've had great service from this dealer in the past so maybe I just got a bad tech...yikes.

Somewhere out there there is a stock Dodge Charger R/T that thinks his car is way faster than my SHO (happened earlier in the day which is what got me wondering if something was wrong).  I want a rematch! :)
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

SHOdded

So many connections to take care of nowadays!  Got a part number by any chance, EBay or dealer sites would make it easy to look up.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO

The wategate hoses have quite a few mechanisms that operate it,1)solenoid valve,there is a coil on the valve,3)actuator itself,if there is a over boost condition detected the ECU will kind of cut power to the car and store a dtc,BTW the dealer owe's you a 10mm nut,can try to get the part # for you later. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Larrylu


Quote from: ecoboostsho on July 17, 2015, 01:25:22 AM
After running my still stock car for a few days after getting it back from having the leak fixed I noticed it felt slower...not slow but not like it should. I checked the LOR thinking maybe they reset the computer but that was fine at -1. I then looked at my other Torque gauges and realized the Max boost the car had seen over the last two days was about 5 psi.  I immediately thought that was odd because I know I had floored it earlier. I scanned it with torque and it said no DTCs but the PID that reads how many DTCs said one was set. I fired up FORSCAN and it immediately pulled a P0299 which is an underboost condition. Great... I thought. I checked all the piping and clamps but couldn't really find anything. I reset it and took it for a drive but same behavior and the code came right back. Popped the hood again and noticed the nut holding the top charge pipe was missing but whole annoying didn't see how that could be my problem. I started checking for loose connectors and then I saw a small connector hanging down and it was pretty clear it was unplugged. I honestly don't know now what this sensor is called but I think it compares boost levels from the intake and the manifold or maybe does something to the wastegate ultimately?? (Anyone know for sure) its the one in this pic with all the small hoses and clamps coming out of it right up front. (Not the MAP sensor you swap out for a tune).

Once I plugged it in and cleared the codes it ran great and all my boost is back! I've had great service from this dealer in the past so maybe I just got a bad tech...yikes.

Somewhere out there there is a stock Dodge Charger R/T that thinks his car is way faster than my SHO (happened earlier in the day which is what got me wondering if something was wrong).  I want a rematch! :)
Makes you worry what else this guy touched!
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

ecoboostsho

Exactly Larry...just hoping that nut isn't inside my new valve cover!
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

PokerMunkee

Good catch!  I have anxiety when I have to bring my babies to the dealers, especially for overnight visits.  Just don't trust other people.  But I hate working on cars, so I suck it up.
2013 SHO PP - Ignot Silver/Charcoal
Unleashed 91 tune w/ 3BAR, Corsa exhaust, LEDs everywhere
2011 F-250 6.2 CCSB FX4

ecoboostsho

Just stopped by the dealer and they were professional and apologetic...got a free 6mm flange nut (takes a 10 mm socket) and a cold diet coke for my trouble. Hopefully all else is fine!
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

Brucelinc

Ecoboostsho, learning what that sensor does is good information to know and congratulations for finding the issue and correcting it.