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Has anyone done aftermarket pads and rotors on a 13+ PP?

Started by sunwolf, March 25, 2015, 04:48:40 PM

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sunwolf

Im looking for new pads and rotors that will give me some more stopping power. I called autoanything and the guy told me that my only real option was Baer Decela for rotors and they would be best paired up with EBC yellow stuff for about $1000. From what I see everywhere the websites that sell brakes mention nothing about the performance pack and the guy was telling me that the EBC's are only for the non PP. I really don't want to spend that much on brakes an I'm curious to see if anyone has a solution.
2014 Taurus SHO Black Performance Pack LMS tune 3bar tstat downpipes
2008 BMW M6 Convertible SMG
2008 F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L
2011 F-150 Ecoboost Crew Cab 4x4
2012 Lincoln Navigator L 4x4

ZSHO

I have 22k on mine and pretty satisfied with the stopping power besides that annoying squeak which have an appt on friday,can try to find out for you if they updated the pads to a better compound or if they can suggest a better alternative.Z.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Dxlnt1

Using Duralst pads and rotors on my 2011. The pads Im using are apparently from a 2013 model. DOnt remember if PP or not but only difference is retaining clid on newer models.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4462.msg69287.html#msg69287

2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

AJP turbo

I'm going to try ebc blue stuff ndx...they are a track pad that is streetable...I he them on my g35 and liked them...ebc reccomemended yellow stuff then I told them sometime I drive my car 140 and they said I want blue stuff...sometimes my drives turn into time trials
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sunwolf

Quote from: Dxlnt1 on March 25, 2015, 06:31:39 PM
Using Duralst pads and rotors on my 2011. The pads Im using are apparently from a 2013 model. DOnt remember if PP or not but only difference is retaining clid on newer models.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4462.msg69287.html#msg69287
The clip is the only difference on the standard SHO. The performance pack has bigger rotors and the rear rotors are vented. I need to know about Performance Pack aftermarket options.
2014 Taurus SHO Black Performance Pack LMS tune 3bar tstat downpipes
2008 BMW M6 Convertible SMG
2008 F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L
2011 F-150 Ecoboost Crew Cab 4x4
2012 Lincoln Navigator L 4x4

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: sunwolf on March 25, 2015, 07:36:28 PM
Quote from: Dxlnt1 on March 25, 2015, 06:31:39 PM
Using Duralst pads and rotors on my 2011. The pads Im using are apparently from a 2013 model. DOnt remember if PP or not but only difference is retaining clid on newer models.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4462.msg69287.html#msg69287
The clip is the only difference on the standard SHO. The performance pack has bigger rotors and the rear rotors are vented. I need to know about Performance Pack aftermarket options.
On the 2013's the only difference is pads...


ZSHO

yup.only the pads are different,the Rotors are the same size,besides the PP having on F/R hjgh temp silicone piston boots,drilled pistons(for improved cooling)and also calibration on the booster,possibly high performance brake fluid.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

sunwolf

On my 2014 PP the rear rotors are vented so I think they are thicker.
2014 Taurus SHO Black Performance Pack LMS tune 3bar tstat downpipes
2008 BMW M6 Convertible SMG
2008 F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L
2011 F-150 Ecoboost Crew Cab 4x4
2012 Lincoln Navigator L 4x4

ZSHO

Quote from: sunwolf on March 26, 2015, 07:41:51 AM
On my 2014 PP the rear rotors are vented so I think they are thicker.
If your talking about Diameter they are the same,the rears appear to be vented which is better for cooling,in respect to width it seems very little difference,it appears that the rotors can be ordered black to match the calipers,but need to verify that tommorrow at the dealer,but the brake pads and struts,shocks can be ordered in black for a little extra to match the calipers wich seems pretty cool to have.Z.  https://www.rockauto.com/info/48/DG1Z2C026A-FRO.jpg


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

sunwolf

"The brakes get a larger master cylinder bore for a pedal ratio change that gives you less travel at the top of the pedal for a firmer feel, and the rear vented brake rotors are 30 percent larger. The already massive vented front rotors get dual piston 48-mm calipers with performance friction pads, and the pistons themselves have high-temp dust boots and seals that pull the pads more effectively away from the discs for less heat buildup." From road and track review of the 13 with PP - http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a18234/2013-ford-taurus-sho-with-performance-package/

And From the ford website:
Not sure if the 15 PP has even bigger brakes or if it is the same as 13 and 14.
2014 Taurus SHO Black Performance Pack LMS tune 3bar tstat downpipes
2008 BMW M6 Convertible SMG
2008 F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L
2011 F-150 Ecoboost Crew Cab 4x4
2012 Lincoln Navigator L 4x4

moem1090

I don't want to offend anyone on the post but if you love you're car stay away from anything duralast. On my 10' SHO I put akebono brake pads and they are great, no noise, no brake dust along with power stop drilled & slotted rotors. Easy to clean and constant stares.
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panther427

By Duralast do you mean duracrap.... Built to fail.   Sorry I would have agree about there parts. But some brakes are Better than no brakes 😝
I tend to avoid AutoZone parts unless a it's a need and they are the only ones with the part.  But I will admit the black rotors sure looked nice
2013 SHO

ZSHO

I always try sticking with oem parts for many reasons,personally avoid retail chain stores,unless its an emergency and have no choice but purchase Duralast products or to discard some used oil.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: sunwolf on March 26, 2015, 11:32:01 AM
"The brakes get a larger master cylinder bore for a pedal ratio change that gives you less travel at the top of the pedal for a firmer feel, and the rear vented brake rotors are 30 percent larger. The already massive vented front rotors get dual piston 48-mm calipers with performance friction pads, and the pistons themselves have high-temp dust boots and seals that pull the pads more effectively away from the discs for less heat buildup." From road and track review of the 13 with PP - http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a18234/2013-ford-taurus-sho-with-performance-package/

And From the ford website:
Not sure if the 15 PP has even bigger brakes or if it is the same as 13 and 14.
This was verified by my contacts at the dealership.

I have a 2013 non-PP and a 2015 PP sitting in my garage and I'm telling you they are exactly the same

The entire 2013 line was changed because gen 4.1 sucked so badly.

There was plenty of erroneous info in the 2013 reviews and there was even one reviewer who thought he had a PP car when it was in fact non-PP.






FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: sunwolf on March 26, 2015, 07:41:51 AM
On my 2014 PP the rear rotors are vented so I think they are thicker.
They are vented on my 2013 non-PP