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E85 or 100 octane

Started by FracaSHO, April 14, 2014, 01:44:28 PM

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wasinger3000

#135
July 18, 2014, 09:36:12 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 18, 2014, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 18, 2014, 09:14:56 PM
Ok found my limit lol. At 40% I'm at lows of 850 psi for a split second after a shift. Then it'd back to 1800-2100.
That sounds more like Torque management during the shift.
Maybe that's what it is... I'll try to observe during the gear pull. Is there any certain gear that's best?
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

FoMoCoSHO

#136
July 18, 2014, 09:40:35 PM
I'm pretty sure Torrie plays with the Torque MGMT so he'd be best to ask.

Since you see it just after the shift I'd bet money its during the shift because Torque's refresh rate is too damn slow.

wasinger3000

#137
July 18, 2014, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 18, 2014, 09:40:35 PM
I'm pretty sure Torrie plays with the Torque MGMT so he'd be best to ask.

Since you see it just after the shift I'd bet money its during the shift because Torque's refresh rate is too damn slow.
That's what I assumed. Torque takes awhile to refresh. I know the car is slower right now than when I was around 30-32%.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

wasinger3000

#138
July 21, 2014, 04:04:44 PM
Anyone know what the lowest frp we can run is? Before the car  cuts power.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

SHOnUup

#139
July 21, 2014, 09:10:59 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 18, 2014, 09:35:26 PM
Just destroyed a SS Camaro from a roll and dig. Hah. Guy was speachless.
This story needs to find its way to "kill of the day"!!!
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

wasinger3000

#140
July 22, 2014, 10:50:06 AM Last Edit: July 22, 2014, 10:53:00 AM by wasinger3000
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

Josephm

#141
July 25, 2014, 03:12:10 PM
I have Not-- Did you ever ask Torrie what the lowest we could see?
12' Flex EB
Unleashed X4
3rd Cat delete

wasinger3000

#142
July 31, 2014, 10:43:04 AM
Anyone know the octane rating of e98? I found a few mixed answers. Some say 116 some 120..
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

wasinger3000

#143
July 31, 2014, 11:14:22 AM Last Edit: July 31, 2014, 11:58:09 AM by wasinger3000
Wonder if I can do this... since the whole point of ethanol is its octane couldn't I just use less 98% to equal the same octane as a 85% would do.

13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

Josephm

#144
July 31, 2014, 11:50:56 AM
I was thinking same thing. Another reason is it burns allot cooler as well as the octane
12' Flex EB
Unleashed X4
3rd Cat delete

SHOdded

#145
July 31, 2014, 12:09:10 PM
Found this data on the net:


From a Delphi study:
http://delphi.com/pdf/techpapers/2010-01-0619.pdf
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

wasinger3000

#146
July 31, 2014, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 31, 2014, 12:09:10 PM
Found this data on the net:


From a Delphi study:
http://delphi.com/pdf/techpapers/2010-01-0619.pdf
Excellent find! To bad thr table stops at e85...:(
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

SHOdded

#147
July 31, 2014, 02:55:50 PM
True, but it seems that RON/MON hit a brickwall around E50, i.e., it's not a linear gain out to E85.  So figure on topping out octane-wise at 102.  Don't know how you get to 116 or 120 octane.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

wasinger3000

#148
July 31, 2014, 03:08:18 PM Last Edit: July 31, 2014, 03:10:39 PM by wasinger3000
Quote from: SHOdded on July 31, 2014, 02:55:50 PM
True, but it seems that RON/MON hit a brickwall around E50, i.e., it's not a linear gain out to E85.  So figure on topping out octane-wise at 102.  Don't know how you get to 116 or 120 octane.
After reading a few pages I found most say it's within those margins.

Not that this page is trustworthy or not. I just use it to compare to others as well.
http://www.fairgroveoil.com/racing-fuels/e98.html


" Due to the high octane rating of E98 (approximately 120), it is an excellent alternative to buying premium, Methanol or nav gas for high performance engines.  "

http://www.e98racing.com/faq1.htm
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

SHOdded

#149
July 31, 2014, 03:33:09 PM
"E-98 consists of 98% Ethanol and 2% race fuel" - Wonder about the octane rating of the race fuel (I assume unleaded) used.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!
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