Quote from: GSX-PKV on June 13, 2014, 03:23:21 PM
I'm the original owner of a 87 Buick Turbo and have been a member of the GS Club and Buick Performance Group for years. As much as we wish  new GN was in the works, this is just a rumor and last year a member of Buick's marketing team who was at the GS Nationals in Bowling Green was asked about it and she said there are no plans for a new Grand National.  Too bad because when the rumors first started 2 years ago, I was all pumped to buy one.  Even my wife was on board with that plan   but it's not to be.

Definitely not just a rumor. The GN will be here soon.

I was the original owner of a 1996 Buick regal t-type,gray and was my first new car,and was one of the fastest cars in a quarter mile back in the day,until they stole it,man I missed that car,rumors were that the turbo back then was good for about 60k then it was less effective?

I never stated these as facts. If GM has learned anything about CAFE regulations it will take its beating and move on. If they produce cars that get poor fuel milage they will be fined for every unit produced. On top of that the consumer will then pay a gas guzzler tax on top of the msrp.  Yes they can just pass this fine onto the consumer, all that means is you are paying more for something inferior to the rest of the automotive market.

The new business model of Buick is fuel efficiency with its redesign. Yes you can produce a sports car. But it should be a modern day sports car that meets the requirements. The GT500 manages to make 650hp yet still meets fuel regulations.

You can make power and still maintain fuel economy. GM just fails at combining the two.

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Not sure what you are talking about?  Corvettes, particularly the Z06/ZR1 will and or are currently making big power while still getting mid to high 20's MPG wise.  Nearly all of GM's performance line meets requirements.  Pretty sure the Zr1 din't even get dinged on gas guzzler.  Dodge and Ford on the other hand Viper, SRT Challenger/Charger, Ford GT, Cobra/GT500 have never been able to achieve mid/high 20's MPG. 

Unfortunately GM will F it up like they do with the majority of their "cool" cars. I highly doubt it will look as awesome as it does in the second post. It'll most likely be slow, a four door and look like this...

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/2015-buick-grand-national-and-gnx-25-cars-worth-waiting-for-20142017-future-cars

Quote from: SHO-Time on June 18, 2014, 05:00:48 PM
Unfortunately GM will F it up like do with the majority of their "cool" cars. I highly doubt it will look as awesome as it does in the OP's original post. It'll most likely be slow, a four door and look like this...

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/2015-buick-grand-national-and-gnx-25-cars-worth-waiting-for-20142017-future-cars

Please no.....


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Quote from: Docholliday01 on June 18, 2014, 04:33:21 PM
I never stated these as facts. If GM has learned anything about CAFE regulations it will take its beating and move on. If they produce cars that get poor fuel milage they will be fined for every unit produced. On top of that the consumer will then pay a gas guzzler tax on top of the msrp.  Yes they can just pass this fine onto the consumer, all that means is you are paying more for something inferior to the rest of the automotive market.

The new business model of Buick is fuel efficiency with its redesign. Yes you can produce a sports car. But it should be a modern day sports car that meets the requirements. The GT500 manages to make 650hp yet still meets fuel regulations.

You can make power and still maintain fuel economy. GM just fails at combining the two.

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Not sure what you are talking about?  Corvettes, particularly the Z06/ZR1 will and or are currently making big power while still getting mid to high 20's MPG wise.  Nearly all of GM's performance line meets requirements.  Pretty sure the Zr1 din't even get dinged on gas guzzler.  Dodge and Ford on the other hand Viper, SRT Challenger/Charger, Ford GT, Cobra/GT500 have never been able to achieve mid/high 20's MPG.
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Ok so you named 1 gm product that meets the epa requirements.... that's making a bold point. Also are you seriously putting the Ford GT in the list? It has not been in production since 2006... Every single mustang that is made for street legal sale meets the epa requirements. GT500 included, making 24 mpg.

I suggest you do a little more research.

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Hard core performance enthusiast could care less about the EPA  and CAFE standards .

The small amount of these vehicles that will be sold will not affect the MFG averages .

I for one could care less about GAS Guzzler taxes .. If it's what people want , let them buy it .

Screw the PC and tree hugger mentality .... GEEEeeezzzzzz  !!