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Started by dmharvey79, January 23, 2014, 11:33:49 AM

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dmharvey79

#15
January 23, 2014, 04:07:01 PM
Would it be possible to use 3 Y-pipes and sections of straight/bent pipe to build something similar to 4DR's setup? (not nearly as nice to look at but still funchional) See my attempt at a rough diagram below...

                            ---------------------- >- --------DOWNPIPE
STOCK EXHAUST      CUTOUT -<
                            ---------------------- >- --------DOWNPIPE


This is the sort of Y-pipe I have in mind
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003M2EP36/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2A0UE9JFWPJA8&coliid=I3RC7UJXP8NAW1

SRT82ECOBOOST

#16
January 23, 2014, 04:34:26 PM
I don't think the stock exhaust is.spaced further enough apart to do this.
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dmharvey79

#17
January 23, 2014, 05:15:19 PM
That's what I was wondering about. Something along those lines would wind up measuring roughly 18" wide and 36" long, so pretty bulky. Maybe a possible approach with removal of the third cat? There's no o2 sensors downstream of the third cat right?

EcoPowerParts

#18
January 23, 2014, 05:20:45 PM
What if I worked with PPE to do a dual stage exhaust where you don't see the cutout and at WOT it opens automagically?
Would be around $1500 for a catback but would be a full stainless two stage exhaust.
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BiGMaC

#19
January 23, 2014, 05:22:30 PM Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 05:28:45 PM by BiGMaC
Quote from: dmharvey79 on January 23, 2014, 04:07:01 PM
Would it be possible to use 3 Y-pipes and sections of straight/bent pipe to build something similar to 4DR's setup? (not nearly as nice to look at but still funchional) See my attempt at a rough diagram below...

                            ---------------------- >- --------DOWNPIPE
STOCK EXHAUST      CUTOUT -<
                            ---------------------- >- --------DOWNPIPE


This is the sort of Y-pipe I have in mind
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003M2EP36/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2A0UE9JFWPJA8&coliid=I3RC7UJXP8NAW1

Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on January 23, 2014, 04:34:26 PM
I don't think the stock exhaust is.spaced further enough apart to do this.

Here are couple of picks of 4Dr's install and the part... more and a video of it working is at this link:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=695.msg5510#msg5510

Here it is uninstalled seen from the top...click to enlarge


Here's a bottom view installed... click to enlarge

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

EcoPowerParts

#20
January 23, 2014, 05:23:38 PM Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 05:27:33 PM by 4DRHTRD
BTW, the "cutout" would be in the muffler assembly itself and have a vacuum canister to operate the cutout portion. Paul has built one for the Lexus crowd and it's super
awesome.

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/8252334-post43.html

Remember when looking at the dynos in the thread that it's an NA application, boosted apps would pick up more power.
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dmharvey79

#21
January 23, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
For my application I'm really looking for something with electric open/close control. Maybe a catback exhaust design that incorporates a flange so customers can add whatever cutout configuration they want? I'd probably be interested in something along those lines.

BiGMaC

#22
January 23, 2014, 05:28:01 PM
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on January 23, 2014, 05:23:38 PM
BTW, the "cutout" would be in the muffler assembly itself and have a vacuum canister to operate the cutout portion. Paul has built one for the Lexus crowd and it's super awesome.


Any idea of pics or a blog page URL?.... sounds interesting... we've talked and you know I want one!  .. with some control of functioning and on/off....Wish another group buy could be worked up!

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•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

EcoPowerParts

#23
January 23, 2014, 05:28:15 PM
Quote from: dmharvey79 on January 23, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
For my application I'm really looking for something with electric open/close control. Maybe a catback exhaust design that incorporates a flange so customers can add whatever cutout configuration they want? I'd probably be interested in something along those lines.
You can put a switch on the open at WOT feature and no requirement to hold a button to open it. :)
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BiGMaC

#24
January 23, 2014, 05:33:56 PM Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 05:35:40 PM by BiGMaC
OK... I'm an idiot.
....went to the Lexus blog..... looks like the cutout comes out of a "dummy" muffler.  If I see it right, how much performance is lost as opposed to coming straight off the downpipes? ... especially if we consider a drag launch at 1800-2200 rpm?

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SwampRat

#25
January 23, 2014, 06:48:09 PM Last Edit: March 13, 2014, 05:38:28 PM by SwampRat
Quote from: BiGMaC on January 23, 2014, 05:22:30 PM
Quote from: dmharvey79 on January 23, 2014, 04:07:01 PM
Would it be possible to use 3 Y-pipes and sections of straight/bent pipe to build something similar to 4DR's setup? (not nearly as nice to look at but still funchional) See my attempt at a rough diagram below...

                            ---------------------- >- --------DOWNPIPE
STOCK EXHAUST      CUTOUT -<
                            ---------------------- >- --------DOWNPIPE


This is the sort of Y-pipe I have in mind
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003M2EP36/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2A0UE9JFWPJA8&coliid=I3RC7UJXP8NAW1

Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on January 23, 2014, 04:34:26 PM
I don't think the stock exhaust is.spaced further enough apart to do this.

Here are couple of picks of 4Dr's install and the part... more and a video of it working is at this link:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=695.msg5510#msg5510

Here it is uninstalled seen from the top...click to enlarge


Here's a bottom view installed... click to enlarge




I'm confused , is 4DRHTRD's  cutout a custom one off or is it available for Sale ?
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

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FracaSHO

#26
January 23, 2014, 06:58:24 PM

Quote from: 4DRHTRD on January 23, 2014, 05:20:45 PM
What if I worked with PPE to do a dual stage exhaust where you don't see the cutout and at WOT it opens automagically?
Would be around $1500 for a catback but would be a full stainless two stage exhaust.

I would be interested in buying that. But a open/close switch so I could control when it opens would be nice.


Brad
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crash712us

#27
January 23, 2014, 07:02:40 PM
Now thats a cool set up 4dr!

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BiGMaC

#28
January 23, 2014, 07:27:21 PM
Kbeck.... They lost the jig... I have priced it out with 4DR..... he can reproduced it though. as a "one of" it will likely be as much as $1600 on the car with my ideas.  A group buy would help.    As far as the one for the Lexus being adapted 4DR promises more later and already works with the fabricator.

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•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

#29
January 23, 2014, 07:28:12 PM
Long live 4DR!  The man never rests!
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!
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