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Started by 2010Limited, July 15, 2018, 02:42:57 PM

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2010Limited

#15
July 16, 2018, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on July 16, 2018, 03:49:14 PM
I think There is a weep hole for the water pump IIRC!  That oil looks like Condensation buildup! I found it beneficial to avoid frequent short trips due to condensation buildup inside the crankcase with no time to burn it off especially in High humid climates.  Z

Is it possibly my motor isn't toast?
If you poured out that oil what would you do?
Change it and see what happens?
Check the plugs that they aren't wet?

It's been hot and humid as balls here lately



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SHOdded

#16
July 16, 2018, 05:18:28 PM
Whatever you do do NOT run the engine.  If you need to crank it over by hand that is probably ok.  But the speed with which this whole incident occurred tells me it is a water pump issue.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

2010Limited

#17
July 16, 2018, 05:41:40 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 16, 2018, 05:18:28 PM
Whatever you do do NOT run the engine.  If you need to crank it over by hand that is probably ok.  But the speed with which this whole incident occurred tells me it is a water pump issue.

I have no plans of trying to start it


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ZSHO

#18
July 16, 2018, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: 2010Limited on July 16, 2018, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on July 16, 2018, 03:49:14 PM
I think There is a weep hole for the water pump IIRC!  That oil looks like Condensation buildup! I found it beneficial to avoid frequent short trips due to condensation buildup inside the crankcase with no time to burn it off especially in High humid climates.  Z

Is it possibly my motor isn't toast?
If you poured out that oil what would you do?
Change it and see what happens?
Check the plugs that they aren't wet?

It's been hot and humid as balls here lately



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I would just follow my mentor SHOdded advice ^^^ 
Here's a PDF on the Timing chain.  Z

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdibDZpbWZnN19ZZEotQmxteVJPZHpXWWtEalY0/view


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

2010Limited

#19
July 17, 2018, 08:19:34 AM
Is there any way in the world the new oil separator could have caused this?
I only ask because that's the last part I changed out before this happened 


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SHOdded

#20
July 17, 2018, 08:42:53 AM
I dont see how ... But i guess given an exact set of circumstances, anything is possible.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Izzybird

#21
July 17, 2018, 09:54:48 AM
I've been flushing, adding coolant filter, and refill with Delo ELC, to the International vt365/Powerstroke 6.0 diesels for a decade now in the battle against silicate drop out and casting sand. The Ford Gold coolant was crapola, what kind of red koolaid are they using now? What's the consensus on flush and filter for these guys if the water pump is at risk?
OP, hope you don't mind me jumping in your thread.
Wife's '15 SHO non PP

ToMang07

#22
July 17, 2018, 10:20:38 AM
Quote from: Izzybird on July 17, 2018, 09:54:48 AM
I've been flushing, adding coolant filter, and refill with Delo ELC, to the International vt365/Powerstroke 6.0 diesels for a decade now in the battle against silicate drop out and casting sand. The Ford Gold coolant was crapola, what kind of red koolaid are they using now? What's the consensus on flush and filter for these guys if the water pump is at risk?
OP, hope you don't mind me jumping in your thread.

I thought I recognized the SN, lol

I'm curious about this myself....looking in my '13 it looks like that Ferd Gold crap. I was wondering how much that plays into the waterpump issue.
~Tom~
2013 SHO - Stage 3 Snow Performance Meth, (2) SCT X4 with Unleashed, 3 Bar Map, MSD Ignition Coils w/Colder Plugs 170*TS, EcoPowerParts Hot Pipes & Tial-Q BOV) Stage 3 Motorsports Catless Downpipes 3" Cat-Back Exhaust, JLT Oil Separator, H&R Sport Springs, K&N CAI, Drilled and Slotted Rotors w/EBC Pads

SHOdded

#23
July 17, 2018, 10:54:42 AM Last Edit: July 17, 2018, 10:58:21 AM by SHOdded
Your 13 should have the ORANGE coolant in it, I think they switched midway in the 2010 MY.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ToMang07

#24
July 17, 2018, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 17, 2018, 10:54:42 AM
Your 13 should have the ORANGE coolant in it, I think they switched midway in the 2010 MY.
It's not Dex Orange..... it's closer to gold. I plan to have it flushed in the next 6k anyway.... before it hits 60k miles. Just need the extra cash. Buying these damn things is expensive! lol
~Tom~
2013 SHO - Stage 3 Snow Performance Meth, (2) SCT X4 with Unleashed, 3 Bar Map, MSD Ignition Coils w/Colder Plugs 170*TS, EcoPowerParts Hot Pipes & Tial-Q BOV) Stage 3 Motorsports Catless Downpipes 3" Cat-Back Exhaust, JLT Oil Separator, H&R Sport Springs, K&N CAI, Drilled and Slotted Rotors w/EBC Pads

SHOdded

#25
July 17, 2018, 11:10:46 AM
Can you take a pic of the coolant in there now?  Should be orangish/pinkish color.  In any case, you can do multiple drain and fills if you want to DIY, only need to open the radiator petcock (plastic).  Distilled water as the intermediate fill till it comes out clear.  Then concentrate of choosing.  Should give you the 50/50.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

2010Limited

#26
July 17, 2018, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 17, 2018, 11:10:46 AM
Can you take a pic of the coolant in there now?  Should be orangish/pinkish color.  In any case, you can do multiple drain and fills if you want to DIY, only need to open the radiator petcock (plastic).  Distilled water as the intermediate fill till it comes out clear.  Then concentrate of choosing.  Should give you the 50/50.
My coolant?


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ZSHO

#27
July 17, 2018, 05:20:07 PM
Quote from: 2010Limited on July 17, 2018, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 17, 2018, 11:10:46 AM
Can you take a pic of the coolant in there now?  Should be orangish/pinkish color.  In any case, you can do multiple drain and fills if you want to DIY, only need to open the radiator petcock (plastic).  Distilled water as the intermediate fill till it comes out clear.  Then concentrate of choosing.  Should give you the 50/50.
My coolant?


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I think the question was referenced to ToMang07 ^^^ AFAIK!  Z  :)


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

2010Limited

#28
July 17, 2018, 05:20:40 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on July 17, 2018, 05:20:07 PM
Quote from: 2010Limited on July 17, 2018, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 17, 2018, 11:10:46 AM
Can you take a pic of the coolant in there now?  Should be orangish/pinkish color.  In any case, you can do multiple drain and fills if you want to DIY, only need to open the radiator petcock (plastic).  Distilled water as the intermediate fill till it comes out clear.  Then concentrate of choosing.  Should give you the 50/50.
My coolant?


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I think the question was referenced to ToMang07 ^^^ AFAIK!  Z  :)
That's what I figured


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ZSHO

#29
July 17, 2018, 05:44:08 PM Last Edit: July 17, 2018, 05:54:26 PM by ZSHO
Quote from: 2010Limited on July 17, 2018, 08:19:34 AM
Is there any way in the world the new oil separator could have caused this?
I only ask because that's the last part I changed out before this happened 


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It has certainly crossed my mind on a few occasions since day one of posting.....
Here's something that might be noteworthy pertaining to your 2010MY! Dunno!  Z

PAGE 113 & UP !

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-BwikSKkk17SJT4jgEB6ZRth66LQnWW1/view?usp=drivesdk

BTW any pics of the Oil Sep install!  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|
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