Meth weird power behavior (renamed from meth failure)

[StealBlueSho]

His source torque 18 is an attempt to eliminate a majority of the advance trac stepping in. Seems to work fairly well with straight line runs.. I have only had it kick in once since he made that change...


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[TopherSho]

I have a 2010 Non-PP and I don't have those issues... I ran a 12.35 when it was hot as hell... could be an issue in your strategy he needs to work over? I will say upgrading to the coilovers made a world of difference coming off the line without advance track kicking in.


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One headache at a time .. i am not mechanically inclined any more so lowering is out the window until i have someone else do it

[lamrith]

but the rev 3 meth tune kicked it into performance territories the programming  / advancement doesn't like.   were working on it now but the weather is turning, my road is being farmed so i cant get datalogs to Brad.  i am super-frustrated right now as i cant get the data to Brad,  and I hate the weird shifting and fueling it is doing.

I will try a few more times for logs later this week.. hopefully we can tune around it but Brad's comments make me think it will be a tough task with the 2010-2012 platform NON-PP behaviors.

crossing fingers ..

Yeah big weather change.  Sept closing out like it normally is cool and rainy.  wreaks havoc on traction for logging.

Question for the pro's out there..  There are enough of these cars out there, and they are getting wrecked a bit I am guessing..  What is the feasability of getting a ECU out of a wrecked PP car, that center console panel with the switches and swapping it in?

[StealBlueSho]

but the rev 3 meth tune kicked it into performance territories the programming  / advancement doesn't like.   were working on it now but the weather is turning, my road is being farmed so i cant get datalogs to Brad.  i am super-frustrated right now as i cant get the data to Brad,  and I hate the weird shifting and fueling it is doing.

I will try a few more times for logs later this week.. hopefully we can tune around it but Brad's comments make me think it will be a tough task with the 2010-2012 platform NON-PP behaviors.

crossing fingers ..

Yeah big weather change.  Sept closing out like it normally is cool and rainy.  wreaks havoc on traction for logging.

Question for the pro's out there..  There are enough of these cars out there, and they are getting wrecked a bit I am guessing..  What is the feasability of getting a ECU out of a wrecked PP car, that center console panel with the switches and swapping it in?

Let me find the link... but IIRC there are several control modules that would need to be replaced plus you would need some one with the Ford IDS software to make the changes needed for it to work.


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[lamrith]

but the rev 3 meth tune kicked it into performance territories the programming  / advancement doesn't like.   were working on it now but the weather is turning, my road is being farmed so i cant get datalogs to Brad.  i am super-frustrated right now as i cant get the data to Brad,  and I hate the weird shifting and fueling it is doing.

I will try a few more times for logs later this week.. hopefully we can tune around it but Brad's comments make me think it will be a tough task with the 2010-2012 platform NON-PP behaviors.

crossing fingers ..

Yeah big weather change.  Sept closing out like it normally is cool and rainy.  wreaks havoc on traction for logging.

Question for the pro's out there..  There are enough of these cars out there, and they are getting wrecked a bit I am guessing..  What is the feasability of getting a ECU out of a wrecked PP car, that center console panel with the switches and swapping it in?

Let me find the link... but IIRC there are several control modules that would need to be replaced plus you would need some one with the Ford IDS software to make the changes needed for it to work.


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no worries SBS, sounds like more hsasle than worth for benefit..

[StealBlueSho]

This guy reprogrammed his modules... he didn't say much on how he did it... but it at least goes over all the modules in that need work...

http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/115-5th-6th-gen-engine-drivetrain/184106-sho-pp-addon-s-non-pp-car-first-up-stability-defeat-4.html

There was another post about it... but I can't seem to find it...  anyway... the end result was that it is a lot work and you need to know someone with the right software that is willing to work with you...

[SHOdded]

would seem to be right up in Jason's neck of the woods ... Except I don't think he works on pre-2013MYs anymore?

[StealBlueSho]

would seem to be right up in Jason's neck of the woods ... Except I don't think he works on pre-2013MYs anymore?

This is correct, a few guys have reached out and Jason said he only does the 2013+ cars now.


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[bpd1151]

JMR061 is his user forum user name, in the event anyone is looking for him.

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[ZSHO]

FWIW my APIM for NAV is still working as designed.  Thanks to Jason @  http://www.fordpimods.com/ . Z

[dubcitySHO]

Just pull out the abs fuse and call it a day lol

SBS and I spoke briefly about this when trying to fight our TQ15 demons, I believe before he was alky injected.

For science, I gave it a go, and yeah it works 100% on my 2012 nonPP.  Instrument cluster lights up like a Christmas tree and the DIC freaks out telling me all the errors, but Advancetrak is beaten.

I don't condone this as a full time solution, but if you want 0 intervention from Advancetrak for say, track use, I'd say give it a shot.

[TopherSho]

Na,  the brakes are bad enough (not sufficient) so I am not comfortable with that idea.  Brad will see what he can do.  And we will see where we get with him coding around it.

If all else fails then I will roll back to the last meth tune that did not have the issue and call it good.  I liked the power of rev3, in a dragrace rev3 made some easy kills out in PIR..  but as soon as we went rev3 the tq errors came on strong and make daily driving very much un-enjoyable.

finger crossed,  Brad has been amazing,  and has tunes on stronger rigs so i am very hopeful.

added a new log... check out timestamp 359+ .. it is slow roll into a farm road in 1st gear.  i floor it and it does some super sketchy power management.  it stop all power *hard* and a little scary then goes nutz

[ZSHO]

FWIW Bad worn out brakes along with your (speed sensors) can make your car act funky at times,especially worn out tires,safety aspect comes to mind,food for thought my friend. Z

[TopherSho]

FWIW Bad worn out brakes along with your (speed sensors) can make your car act funky at times,especially worn out tires,safety aspect comes to mind,food for thought my friend. Z

Interesting!  I have tons of pad left currently, I was referring to the fact the oem nonpp brakes are weak.

[Colorado-SHOBro]

Na,  the brakes are bad enough (not sufficient) so I am not comfortable with that idea.  Brad will see what he can do.  And we will see where we get with him coding around it.

If all else fails then I will roll back to the last meth tune that did not have the issue and call it good.  I liked the power of rev3, in a dragrace rev3 made some easy kills out in PIR..  but as soon as we went rev3 the tq errors came on strong and make daily driving very much un-enjoyable.

finger crossed,  Brad has been amazing,  and has tunes on stronger rigs so i am very hopeful.

added a new log... check out timestamp 359+ .. it is slow roll into a farm road in 1st gear.  i floor it and it does some super sketchy power management.  it stop all power *hard* and a little scary then goes nutz

Hopefully no one looks through my download history and sees i downloaded a file with the words "big, log, and tranny"  LOL!!