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Catted downpipes and Corsa catback

Started by Joeyfuzz911, August 20, 2017, 11:26:19 PM

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Joeyfuzz911

So I have the corsa catback on my 2014 SHO. Thinking about getting "catted" downpipes, most likely the PPE downpipes.

My question is if anyone was running the Corsa before getting catted downpipes and when you did go with downpipes, how much louder did it make it both inside and out? Noticeably louder?

I'm trying to avoid being louder.  YouTube vids do provide go feedback on sound tone but not volume.
2014 SHO nonpp, MDesign intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa catback, H&R springs, 170 tstat, 3 bar map sensor, matte black vinyl wrapped chrome trimming, smoke tinted tail lights, 20x9 +35 offset aftermarket wheels on 275/40 R20 Continental Extreme Contact Sports, Powerstop z23 brakes and drilled/slotted rotors, 35% tint, MSD coils, NGK 6510 gapped at 0.26 and AJPturbo 3 bar 93 tune.

12.82 @ 106.6mph w/ 1.82 60"

hawkeye93

I don't know about the SHO, but my experience with the PPE downpipes & Corsa catback in my 2015 Explorer Sport was not good.  It was very raspy; sounded like a bad ricer.  I only had it on for 5 days before I finally removed the catback, and eventually sold it (at a huge loss).  I considered welding in some Vibrant resonators (even bought some) to tame the rasp, but I never did.  I know another Explorer owner here did weld in the resonators, but he too sold his exhaust.
2015 Ford Taurus SHO PP 12.219@112.84
PPE catless DP, Gearhead IC, SP-534, Reische 170, 3 bar, hybrid meth system, tunes from Unleashed, Livernois, Brew City Boost & AJP

1965 Ford Mustang Convertible 289 4V/T5Z/3.55
1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan 272 4V/Fordomatic

ZSHO

#2
I have been running this setup for well over 3 years now based on my signature!!
SHOdded was the first to see my setup in person. Z

Pros-It sounds great without it being overly loud with absolutely zero drone to the cabin.
The overall quality is by far second to none IMO..

Cons- There is a eminent,noticeable rasp only during wot,high rpm.
I would say from my personal experience that the frequency of the sound changes with ever up-loaded tune.





Here is a member which installed resonators which hawkeye93 mentioned above.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Joeyfuzz911

Quote from: hawkeye93 on August 21, 2017, 08:45:23 AM
I don't know about the SHO, but my experience with the PPE downpipes & Corsa catback in my 2015 Explorer Sport was not good.  It was very raspy; sounded like a bad ricer.  I only had it on for 5 days before I finally removed the catback, and eventually sold it (at a huge loss).  I considered welding in some Vibrant resonators (even bought some) to tame the rasp, but I never did.  I know another Explorer owner here did weld in the resonators, but he too sold his exhaust.

Was your setup on the Explorer with catted or cattless DPs?  I know the catless will create rasp for sure, but heard catted doesnt and just concerned about noticeably exhaust increase.

Thanks for info.
2014 SHO nonpp, MDesign intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa catback, H&R springs, 170 tstat, 3 bar map sensor, matte black vinyl wrapped chrome trimming, smoke tinted tail lights, 20x9 +35 offset aftermarket wheels on 275/40 R20 Continental Extreme Contact Sports, Powerstop z23 brakes and drilled/slotted rotors, 35% tint, MSD coils, NGK 6510 gapped at 0.26 and AJPturbo 3 bar 93 tune.

12.82 @ 106.6mph w/ 1.82 60"

hawkeye93

2015 Ford Taurus SHO PP 12.219@112.84
PPE catless DP, Gearhead IC, SP-534, Reische 170, 3 bar, hybrid meth system, tunes from Unleashed, Livernois, Brew City Boost & AJP

1965 Ford Mustang Convertible 289 4V/T5Z/3.55
1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan 272 4V/Fordomatic

Night Hawk

 I'm running the catted LMS dps with the Corsa and found on my car that the tone became deeper with the down pipe exhaust combo.
2017 Fusion Sport
GFB DivValve/165* Thermo
K&N Panel/CFM Breather
Ult Perf Int Garrett Core/MKZ oil cooler
FMS 70mm TB/ NGK .026/LMS V6 93

Joeyfuzz911

Quote from: ZSHO on August 21, 2017, 10:20:22 AM
I have been running this setup for well over 3 years now based on my signature!!
SHOdded was the first to see my setup in person. Z

Pros-It sounds great without it being overly loud with absolutely zero drone to the cabin.
The overall quality is by far second to none IMO..

Cons- There is a eminent,noticeable rasp only during wot,high rpm.
I would say from my personal experience that the frequency of the sound changes with ever up-loaded tune.





Here is a member which installed resonators which hawkeye93 mentioned above.


Did you have the Corsa on before the catted DPs?  If so, was it noticeably louder once the dps got installed?

Also, notice a good power gain from them?
2014 SHO nonpp, MDesign intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa catback, H&R springs, 170 tstat, 3 bar map sensor, matte black vinyl wrapped chrome trimming, smoke tinted tail lights, 20x9 +35 offset aftermarket wheels on 275/40 R20 Continental Extreme Contact Sports, Powerstop z23 brakes and drilled/slotted rotors, 35% tint, MSD coils, NGK 6510 gapped at 0.26 and AJPturbo 3 bar 93 tune.

12.82 @ 106.6mph w/ 1.82 60"

Joeyfuzz911

Quote from: Night Hawk on August 22, 2017, 03:35:28 PM
I'm running the catted LMS dps with the Corsa and found on my car that the tone became deeper with the down pipe exhaust combo.

Did it make the Corsa noticeably louder in and outside the cabin?

Hows the power gain feel from it?
2014 SHO nonpp, MDesign intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa catback, H&R springs, 170 tstat, 3 bar map sensor, matte black vinyl wrapped chrome trimming, smoke tinted tail lights, 20x9 +35 offset aftermarket wheels on 275/40 R20 Continental Extreme Contact Sports, Powerstop z23 brakes and drilled/slotted rotors, 35% tint, MSD coils, NGK 6510 gapped at 0.26 and AJPturbo 3 bar 93 tune.

12.82 @ 106.6mph w/ 1.82 60"

Night Hawk

Now the tone is definitely deeper but I wouldn't say much more louder than running the Corsa only.  I used to have an 2010 with just the Corsa and it sounded pretty damn good. Now with my 2013 it has the same growl, just a deeper tone. As for just the seat of the pants dyno (mind you I have also updated to a LMS V11 93 tune) it is much more responsive and an absolute animal in the upper rpms! One benefit I was not counting on was picking up  1 to 1.5 MPG!
2017 Fusion Sport
GFB DivValve/165* Thermo
K&N Panel/CFM Breather
Ult Perf Int Garrett Core/MKZ oil cooler
FMS 70mm TB/ NGK .026/LMS V6 93

Night Hawk

 Not sure if this owner is on our board, but this is pretty much to what mine sounds like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tixEmXc9XUg
2017 Fusion Sport
GFB DivValve/165* Thermo
K&N Panel/CFM Breather
Ult Perf Int Garrett Core/MKZ oil cooler
FMS 70mm TB/ NGK .026/LMS V6 93

Joeyfuzz911

Quote from: Night Hawk on August 22, 2017, 03:56:06 PM
Not sure if this owner is on our board, but this is pretty much to what mine sounds like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tixEmXc9XUg

This sound like yours as well?  livernois catted dps/ corsa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DREI_5VnW3o
2014 SHO nonpp, MDesign intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa catback, H&R springs, 170 tstat, 3 bar map sensor, matte black vinyl wrapped chrome trimming, smoke tinted tail lights, 20x9 +35 offset aftermarket wheels on 275/40 R20 Continental Extreme Contact Sports, Powerstop z23 brakes and drilled/slotted rotors, 35% tint, MSD coils, NGK 6510 gapped at 0.26 and AJPturbo 3 bar 93 tune.

12.82 @ 106.6mph w/ 1.82 60"

Night Hawk

2017 Fusion Sport
GFB DivValve/165* Thermo
K&N Panel/CFM Breather
Ult Perf Int Garrett Core/MKZ oil cooler
FMS 70mm TB/ NGK .026/LMS V6 93

Joeyfuzz911

I may have to look at the Livernois catted dps now.  They are cheaper lol. 

Any issues with the catted Livernois throwing a CEL after install?
2014 SHO nonpp, MDesign intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa catback, H&R springs, 170 tstat, 3 bar map sensor, matte black vinyl wrapped chrome trimming, smoke tinted tail lights, 20x9 +35 offset aftermarket wheels on 275/40 R20 Continental Extreme Contact Sports, Powerstop z23 brakes and drilled/slotted rotors, 35% tint, MSD coils, NGK 6510 gapped at 0.26 and AJPturbo 3 bar 93 tune.

12.82 @ 106.6mph w/ 1.82 60"

Night Hawk

 No, the tune update avoids CELs, however there are some threads if you look into it, that cause issues with emissions due to the rear o2s being adjusted for and not being able to pass the emissions ready test.
2017 Fusion Sport
GFB DivValve/165* Thermo
K&N Panel/CFM Breather
Ult Perf Int Garrett Core/MKZ oil cooler
FMS 70mm TB/ NGK .026/LMS V6 93

ZSHO

Quote from: Joeyfuzz911 on August 22, 2017, 04:29:00 PM
I may have to look at the Livernois catted dps now.  They are cheaper lol. 

Any issues with the catted Livernois throwing a CEL after install?
If your State requires emissions testing than PPE catted DP is the way to go.

The LMS DP unfortunately are not EPA approved and as such they are for off road use only which is clearly stated on there site. Z

https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP101115


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|