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Started by polskifacet, December 04, 2016, 12:27:49 AM

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BoostedSho2010

Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: lamrith on April 11, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 11, 2017, 12:06:39 PM
Quote from: polskifacet on April 11, 2017, 11:52:12 AM
I have been driving the car on the stock tune for the second day and it feels healthier. Throughout the RPM band its obviously slower but it has like a harmony to it, I can feel there is no monkey business going on with it even though from the logs, you can see its heavily closing the throttle.

There was also sometimes a drop in rpm on the LMS tune when i would be coming to a complete stop which would cause a bit of a vibration (rpm dropped) and the rpm would then jump a bit past idle and calm down to a regular steady idle. I can't reproduce that on the stock tune.
Mine does that goofy idle drop as well.


Mine used too until I had my strategy updated... no longer does it do that.
Mind if I ask what strategy you have now, and how/what did you tell the Dealer to get them to do the update for you? 
I am on KHDK4, and one tuner had mentioned it might be nice to make sure I am on the latest strategy.  When I asked the dealer they pushed back saying no reason to do it.

I know mine idles low and bounces around a bit at idle.

The original strategy for my 2010 SHO was DMJK1AB and then after several updates it is now at DMJKBLA. Livernois had to "build" a new tune for my strategy since I was the first one with that strategy to get a tune.

The first dealer I went too flat out refused to perform a strategy update. The dealership a bit further down the road didn't even question, they were more than happy to take my $100....
In on a dmjk1ab


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StealBlueSho

Quote from: BoostedSho2010 on April 15, 2017, 06:50:29 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: lamrith on April 11, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 11, 2017, 12:06:39 PM
Quote from: polskifacet on April 11, 2017, 11:52:12 AM
I have been driving the car on the stock tune for the second day and it feels healthier. Throughout the RPM band its obviously slower but it has like a harmony to it, I can feel there is no monkey business going on with it even though from the logs, you can see its heavily closing the throttle.

There was also sometimes a drop in rpm on the LMS tune when i would be coming to a complete stop which would cause a bit of a vibration (rpm dropped) and the rpm would then jump a bit past idle and calm down to a regular steady idle. I can't reproduce that on the stock tune.
Mine does that goofy idle drop as well.


Mine used too until I had my strategy updated... no longer does it do that.
Mind if I ask what strategy you have now, and how/what did you tell the Dealer to get them to do the update for you? 
I am on KHDK4, and one tuner had mentioned it might be nice to make sure I am on the latest strategy.  When I asked the dealer they pushed back saying no reason to do it.

I know mine idles low and bounces around a bit at idle.

The original strategy for my 2010 SHO was DMJK1AB and then after several updates it is now at DMJKBLA. Livernois had to "build" a new tune for my strategy since I was the first one with that strategy to get a tune.

The first dealer I went too flat out refused to perform a strategy update. The dealership a bit further down the road didn't even question, they were more than happy to take my $100....
In on a dmjk1ab


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Really?!?!?

polskifacet

#317
Hey Guys,
Got back from my trip. Gave LMS a shout and got some crummy news. No one over there has touched my issue. No update or course of action.

Edit: Left Andy a VM I'm sure he knows more but it takes 48 hours to hear from him.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

SHOdded

well, time to pursue the issue :)  I am sure they have a million things distracting them, so they need to be poked regularly!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

polskifacet

Waiting on Andy to call me back should be today honoring his 48 hour call return policy. Also left Anthony an voicemail, figured I give Ethan a break, I'm sure he hates me by now lol.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

AJP turbo

Wanted to post a screenshot but didnt have time....i have a car that im tuning that has the same strategy as yours..fuel pressure is fine with no special changes and am doing what i always do.

So thats what makes me say its hardware
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

TopherSho

Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 15, 2017, 07:55:12 PM
Quote from: BoostedSho2010 on April 15, 2017, 06:50:29 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: lamrith on April 11, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 11, 2017, 12:06:39 PM
Quote from: polskifacet on April 11, 2017, 11:52:12 AM
I have been driving the car on the stock tune for the second day and it feels healthier. Throughout the RPM band its obviously slower but it has like a harmony to it, I can feel there is no monkey business going on with it even though from the logs, you can see its heavily closing the throttle.

There was also sometimes a drop in rpm on the LMS tune when i would be coming to a complete stop which would cause a bit of a vibration (rpm dropped) and the rpm would then jump a bit past idle and calm down to a regular steady idle. I can't reproduce that on the stock tune.
Mine does that goofy idle drop as well.


Mine used too until I had my strategy updated... no longer does it do that.
Mind if I ask what strategy you have now, and how/what did you tell the Dealer to get them to do the update for you? 
I am on KHDK4, and one tuner had mentioned it might be nice to make sure I am on the latest strategy.  When I asked the dealer they pushed back saying no reason to do it.

I know mine idles low and bounces around a bit at idle.

The original strategy for my 2010 SHO was DMJK1AB and then after several updates it is now at DMJKBLA. Livernois had to "build" a new tune for my strategy since I was the first one with that strategy to get a tune.

The first dealer I went too flat out refused to perform a strategy update. The dealership a bit further down the road didn't even question, they were more than happy to take my $100....
In on a dmjk1ab


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Really?!?!?

SCT had never even heard of this STRATEGY before I called them and send them pics of the SCT tuner .. I am currently running DMJKBLA .. the previous OEM firmware was spastic as hell.   if i put my foot on the gas in park.. just a tiny bit it would idle up to 1000rpm .. then choke itself out.. drop under 400,  sputter, recover... then do it all over again about every 50-60 seconds on the nose.

AJP had me update prior to tuning and it no longer does that ..

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

StealBlueSho

Quote from: TopherSho on May 03, 2017, 05:23:13 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 15, 2017, 07:55:12 PM
Quote from: BoostedSho2010 on April 15, 2017, 06:50:29 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: lamrith on April 11, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 11, 2017, 12:06:39 PM
Quote from: polskifacet on April 11, 2017, 11:52:12 AM
I have been driving the car on the stock tune for the second day and it feels healthier. Throughout the RPM band its obviously slower but it has like a harmony to it, I can feel there is no monkey business going on with it even though from the logs, you can see its heavily closing the throttle.

There was also sometimes a drop in rpm on the LMS tune when i would be coming to a complete stop which would cause a bit of a vibration (rpm dropped) and the rpm would then jump a bit past idle and calm down to a regular steady idle. I can't reproduce that on the stock tune.
Mine does that goofy idle drop as well.


Mine used too until I had my strategy updated... no longer does it do that.
Mind if I ask what strategy you have now, and how/what did you tell the Dealer to get them to do the update for you? 
I am on KHDK4, and one tuner had mentioned it might be nice to make sure I am on the latest strategy.  When I asked the dealer they pushed back saying no reason to do it.

I know mine idles low and bounces around a bit at idle.

The original strategy for my 2010 SHO was DMJK1AB and then after several updates it is now at DMJKBLA. Livernois had to "build" a new tune for my strategy since I was the first one with that strategy to get a tune.

The first dealer I went too flat out refused to perform a strategy update. The dealership a bit further down the road didn't even question, they were more than happy to take my $100....
In on a dmjk1ab


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Really?!?!?

SCT had never even heard of this STRATEGY before I called them and send them pics of the SCT tuner .. I am currently running DMJKBLA .. the previous OEM firmware was spastic as hell.   if i put my foot on the gas in park.. just a tiny bit it would idle up to 1000rpm .. then choke itself out.. drop under 400,  sputter, recover... then do it all over again about every 50-60 seconds on the nose.

AJP had me update prior to tuning and it no longer does that ..



SCT is full of crap... I have the same strategy..... and have called them for support...

polskifacet

#323
Quote from: AJP turbo on May 03, 2017, 05:03:11 PM
Wanted to post a screenshot but didnt have time....i have a car that im tuning that has the same strategy as yours..fuel pressure is fine with no special changes and am doing what i always do.

So thats what makes me say its hardware
I know man but I have done everything that LMS has suggested and see no clear sign of anything being wrong. Anything failing would continue to fail, get worse and I would see a change. It is completely static.

I'm thinking about putting in an aftermarket fuel line but would need community support on the correct fittings and retrofitting the fuel pressure sensor near the tank.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

TopherSho

Quote from: StealBlueSho on May 03, 2017, 05:24:58 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on May 03, 2017, 05:23:13 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 15, 2017, 07:55:12 PM
Quote from: BoostedSho2010 on April 15, 2017, 06:50:29 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: lamrith on April 11, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 11, 2017, 12:06:39 PM
Quote from: polskifacet on April 11, 2017, 11:52:12 AM
I have been driving the car on the stock tune for the second day and it feels healthier. Throughout the RPM band its obviously slower but it has like a harmony to it, I can feel there is no monkey business going on with it even though from the logs, you can see its heavily closing the throttle.

There was also sometimes a drop in rpm on the LMS tune when i would be coming to a complete stop which would cause a bit of a vibration (rpm dropped) and the rpm would then jump a bit past idle and calm down to a regular steady idle. I can't reproduce that on the stock tune.
Mine does that goofy idle drop as well.


Mine used too until I had my strategy updated... no longer does it do that.
Mind if I ask what strategy you have now, and how/what did you tell the Dealer to get them to do the update for you? 
I am on KHDK4, and one tuner had mentioned it might be nice to make sure I am on the latest strategy.  When I asked the dealer they pushed back saying no reason to do it.

I know mine idles low and bounces around a bit at idle.

The original strategy for my 2010 SHO was DMJK1AB and then after several updates it is now at DMJKBLA. Livernois had to "build" a new tune for my strategy since I was the first one with that strategy to get a tune.

The first dealer I went too flat out refused to perform a strategy update. The dealership a bit further down the road didn't even question, they were more than happy to take my $100....
In on a dmjk1ab


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Really?!?!?

SCT had never even heard of this STRATEGY before I called them and send them pics of the SCT tuner .. I am currently running DMJKBLA .. the previous OEM firmware was spastic as hell.   if i put my foot on the gas in park.. just a tiny bit it would idle up to 1000rpm .. then choke itself out.. drop under 400,  sputter, recover... then do it all over again about every 50-60 seconds on the nose.

AJP had me update prior to tuning and it no longer does that ..



SCT is full of crap... I have the same strategy..... and have called them for support...

Hmpf I have not had satisfactory interactions with SCT until I talked to Kevin.. he's the one who put my dmr ticket in.  Everyone else has not been confidence inspiring..
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

Dang all that quoting makes it hard to read on a mobile device LOL
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

Quote from: SHOdded on May 03, 2017, 07:04:29 PM
Dang all that quoting makes it hard to read on a mobile device LOL

No kidding.  I need to get taptotalk installed.. but it freaks me out put my creds
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

polskifacet

Another day with no info from LMS. I'm confused why they don't want to simply try and change the values AJP suggested so we can all be done with this. Maybe all of you guys need to start calling LMS and asking what the status is lol.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

ZSHO

#328
Welcome back Adam!. How was your vacation?
I will try to contact them for ya but remember there are so many variables to consider in this situation. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

polskifacet

Quote from: ZSHO on May 04, 2017, 10:33:03 AM
Welcome back Adam!. How was your vacation?
I will try to contact them for ya but remember there are so many variables to consider in this situation. Z
It has come down to tuning around my issue. I wish they could just do it as what has to be done has been stated by Brad. If LMS doesn't have confidence that they can find the issue with my car in a timely manner, what choice do I have?
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs