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Started by CroR1, October 22, 2016, 07:04:27 PM

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CroR1

those of you with PP, which traction control do you turn off? Advanced, by holding the brake and the button for 5 seconds, or do you just hit the button twice? which works better on the track?

AJP turbo

I shut off advanctrac...i wouldnt want any intervention of traction or stability control....its to intrusive when it steps in
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StealBlueSho

Ha! When advance Trac kicks on, it dumps all my boost... You can see it in he logs.. WGDC just drops to 0 like it hit a wall...I have a non-pp so I get that issue when I really dog it..

AJP turbo

Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 22, 2016, 07:34:53 PM
Ha! When advance Trac kicks on, it dumps all my boost... You can see it in he logs.. WGDC just drops to 0 like it hit a wall...I have a non-pp so I get that issue when I really dog it..

How were you getting those good 0-60 times?..i thought you told me you had some good ones
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Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

StealBlueSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on October 22, 2016, 07:41:03 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 22, 2016, 07:34:53 PM
Ha! When advance Trac kicks on, it dumps all my boost... You can see it in he logs.. WGDC just drops to 0 like it hit a wall...I have a non-pp so I get that issue when I really dog it..

How were you getting those good 0-60 times?..i thought you told me you had some good ones
If I am on a flat road and going straight I don't have an issue. If I am turning at ALL or punching it from a stop going up a hill the front lifts and advactrac cuts my balls off...

4.3 seconds 0-60 all day long without launching with your setup....if I do a real launch  I spin too much... Probably need to experiment with dropping tire pressures...

4.5 seconds is the best I could do with LMS 4+X race tune..even after they re-wrote for me..

5.1 with Unleashed...but Torrie never could nail down a tune on my car...I ended up going else where...

AJP turbo

There actually may be a way i could replicate the PP's ability to disable advancetrac in a non pp but it may be experimental and render stability control useless so it would be for a "race tune" only...but im not sure yet if i can do it
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Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

StealBlueSho

There was a guy who could do it... Using IDS... Only on the 2013+...

StealBlueSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on October 22, 2016, 07:56:09 PM
There actually may be a way i could replicate the PP's ability to disable advancetrac in a non pp but it may be experimental and render stability control useless so it would be for a "race tune" only...but im not sure yet if i can do it
Email sent... You know I love a good experiment...

CroR1


Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 22, 2016, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on October 22, 2016, 07:56:09 PM
There actually may be a way i could replicate the PP's ability to disable advancetrac in a non pp but it may be experimental and render stability control useless so it would be for a "race tune" only...but im not sure yet if i can do it
Email sent... You know I love a good experiment...
^ what he said! let's figure it out, would be a nice option for a race tune
11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

derfdog15

Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 22, 2016, 07:34:53 PM
Ha! When advance Trac kicks on, it dumps all my boost... You can see it in he logs.. WGDC just drops to 0 like it hit a wall...I have a non-pp so I get that issue when I really dog it..

I turned it all the way off at the track, and still the car complained on a few runs where I launched a bit hard. Didn't seem to pull power, but didnt like going over 100mph with it off, popped up a "Service AdvanceTrac Soon" light. No code or anything though, and it went away on key cycle.


Quote from: AJP turbo on October 22, 2016, 07:06:19 PM
I shut off advanctrac...i wouldnt want any intervention of traction or stability control....its to intrusive when it steps in

I agree, I did a run with just normal traction control off and lost atleast .1 of a second time wise, and could feel it stepping in.
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

AJP turbo

Quote from: derfdog15 on October 22, 2016, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 22, 2016, 07:34:53 PM
Ha! When advance Trac kicks on, it dumps all my boost... You can see it in he logs.. WGDC just drops to 0 like it hit a wall...I have a non-pp so I get that issue when I really dog it..

I turned it all the way off at the track, and still the car complained on a few runs where I launched a bit hard. Didn't seem to pull power, but didnt like going over 100mph with it off, popped up a "Service AdvanceTrac Soon" light. No code or anything though, and it went away on key cycle.


Quote from: AJP turbo on October 22, 2016, 07:06:19 PM
I shut off advanctrac...i wouldnt want any intervention of traction or stability control....its to intrusive when it steps in

I agree, I did a run with just normal traction control off and lost atleast .1 of a second time wise, and could feel it stepping in.

I got that message pretty consistently when I raced my SHO...I think it has to do with brake boosting
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Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

derfdog15

Quote from: AJP turbo on October 22, 2016, 11:21:59 PM
Quote from: derfdog15 on October 22, 2016, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 22, 2016, 07:34:53 PM
Ha! When advance Trac kicks on, it dumps all my boost... You can see it in he logs.. WGDC just drops to 0 like it hit a wall...I have a non-pp so I get that issue when I really dog it..

I turned it all the way off at the track, and still the car complained on a few runs where I launched a bit hard. Didn't seem to pull power, but didnt like going over 100mph with it off, popped up a "Service AdvanceTrac Soon" light. No code or anything though, and it went away on key cycle.


Quote from: AJP turbo on October 22, 2016, 07:06:19 PM
I shut off advanctrac...i wouldnt want any intervention of traction or stability control....its to intrusive when it steps in

I agree, I did a run with just normal traction control off and lost atleast .1 of a second time wise, and could feel it stepping in.

I got that message pretty consistently when I raced my SHO...I think it has to do with brake boosting


Yeah, it scared me at first, but I checked, and no codes, and still consistent times, so I just ignored it when it popped up the next time.
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

f8tlSHO

Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 22, 2016, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on October 22, 2016, 07:56:09 PM
There actually may be a way i could replicate the PP's ability to disable advancetrac in a non pp but it may be experimental and render stability control useless so it would be for a "race tune" only...but im not sure yet if i can do it
Email sent... You know I love a good experiment...
I'm interested in turning off all this advance crap also. Is there a way to turn off the traction control with a push of a button instead of going down through all the menus on the dash?


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#14
Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 22, 2016, 07:57:34 PMThere was a guy who could do it... Using IDS... Only on the 2013+...


This "guy" was/is Jason & he hails from Wisconsin.... his user name in most forums is "jmr061".

At one point in the past, Jason was performing complete disabling of the traction & stability protocols, for those 2010-2012 Non-PP owners, so the info of 2013+ exclusively,  is not necessarily accurate.

Due to lack of participation, Jason has since concentrated his efforts on those 2013+ Non-PP owners.

Perhaps some of you can grease the proverbial wheels to have both him & AJP network/interact with eachother, for the benefit of the community overall.

Certainly worth a try!

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