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"How- to" Access Advanced Ford PIDs Using a Scan Tool

Started by breeves002, July 18, 2013, 04:04:08 PM

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breeves002

Quote from: adelsin on July 21, 2013, 01:45:05 AM
Is the MX confirmed for ms and hs can? I still want to try the no hs option first.

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Well the MX can access BOTH MS and HS CAN, but it seems FORScan doesn't support it yet.
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adelsin

Didnt ecoboostsho get both?

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breeves002

No, through FORScan he could only connect to HS-CAN as he said before. He tried saying yes there is a switch and no there isn't. Hopefully they add the proper support too....

I need to find my install file of Scan XL so we can try that out!
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breeves002

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Quote from: ecoboostsho on July 20, 2013, 12:39:36 PM
Okay so I tried to access the MS CAN network in the car with my MX (which does have the STN111070 chip and should support it) with Forscan and it was a no go.  It asks me if I have the switch (I say yes) and then it tries but doesn't get back anything.  It does see the following modules on the HS CAN but that isn't new.

Thoughts?

Okay I just saw that you have the STN1150 chip according to FORScan. Go back and look at that screenshot!

Either the MX isn't 1170 or you have an old version of it? Gotta find someone with a switched ELM or the STN1170 chip!

EDIT: Did some digging and found that the STN1150 is very similar to the STN1170 and does support MS-CAN so I'm still scratching my head.
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ecoboostsho

Interesting.  I didn't notice that in the header.  I must have the previous verison - but yes as you indicated it should still support MS CAN.
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breeves002

Sending out my modified ELM327 to adelsin tomorrow! Should get some data as soon as that bad boy gets hooked up in a few days! Should be there by Wednesday I would hope (if USPS Priority mail really is that fast).

More knowledge to be gained. Already ordered another ELM327 for me to modify for myself again :P

If anyone else wants one, $29 including shipping and it can be yours!
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breeves002

So I did find a little bit more new info today. 2010 Fusion Sport FWD we got connected up and had a little different results.

Adding a few more pics to first page of another device build and adding info.
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adelsin

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breeves002

Yeah in ScanXL the 4x4 computer pops up for my car, but I'm not sure what it can do.

I made a mistake with the new ELM327 adaptor I bought. It was cheaper than the last one and not working since I modded it so I may have to buy another.

All I know is the one I sent you may not look pretty but it sure works! Remember HS-CAN is the switch facing the screw.
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adelsin

Got your text! Thanks for reminding me. Still waiting for it to come. Should be here tomorrow, I hope.
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breeves002

Well you are pretty far. I would bet on Friday, but USPS priority mail is pretty fast. I sent it flat rate and I've noticed flat rate gets places really quickly.
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EcoPowerParts

I finally got my MX bluetooth adapter connected to my laptop and run out real quick to data log.
I can access all the modules without the switch, I clicked on I don't know when it came up.
I can data log from the various modules individually, I don't know how to do simultaneous logs from multiple modules.

I also can see the car going into AWD when throttle is applied.
I need to see what happens when it spins. I also noticed the 4 ABS sensors there, I think the interception of the rear ABS sensor and replicating the fronts to the rear would stop the spin nanny that I'm experiencing.

Here's the pictures.
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breeves002

I don't see any MSCAN modules popping up. Should see HVAC at the very least. SDARS too if you have satellite radio. Also DSM if you have the memory settings for your drivers seat. So it's not reading MS CAN data as of now.
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breeves002

I also like your "Theft Detected, Vehicle Immobilized" code... Did you try starting it without a PATS key? LOL, whats that from?
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EcoPowerParts

Quote from: breeves002 on July 29, 2013, 12:53:39 AM
I also like your "Theft Detected, Vehicle Immobilized" code... Did you try starting it without a PATS key? LOL, whats that from?
I had a key go bad, I'll try and read the car again

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