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"How- to" Access Advanced Ford PIDs Using a Scan Tool

Started by breeves002, July 18, 2013, 04:04:08 PM

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breeves002

SHO Lover and Advanced Diagnostics Enthusiast
2008 Mercury Sable Premier - 3.5L N/A Duratec

breeves002

I emailed the FORScan people and they said it should work fine with the stn1170 chip. Here's what they said: "Hello,

Thanks for the feedback and good words.

FORScan supports STN1170 chipset since version 2.1.0 (please see release notes: http://www.forscan.org/download.html). Tests were made on 3rd party adapter with STN1170 (not OBDLink MX), but we believe there should be no much difference. In other words, it should work. Can you please send us FORScan logs made for OBDLink MX device? Instruction is here:

http://www.forscan.org/contactus.html

Regards,
FORScan Team
"


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2008 Mercury Sable Premier - 3.5L N/A Duratec

breeves002

Well I emailed the FORScan people and this is what they told me: "Hello,

Thanks for the feedback and good words.

FORScan supports STN1170 chipset since version 2.1.0 (please see release notes: http://www.forscan.org/download.html). Tests were made on 3rd party adapter with STN1170 (not OBDLink MX), but we believe there should be no much difference. In other words, it should work. Can you please send us FORScan logs made for OBDLink MX device? Instruction is here:

http://www.forscan.org/contactus.html

Regards,
FORScan Team"

So if it doesn't work again if you can get the log files and send them that would be cool.
SHO Lover and Advanced Diagnostics Enthusiast
2008 Mercury Sable Premier - 3.5L N/A Duratec

EcoPowerParts

What should I choose to see the MSCAN bus when I connect?
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breeves002

I honestly don't know...


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breeves002

Quote from: 4DRHTRD on July 29, 2013, 12:28:56 PM
What should I choose to see the MSCAN bus when I connect?

I would just try different combinations. When it asks if you have a switch hit yes. I know you hit IDK before. If that doesn't work, then try hitting NO.
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2008 Mercury Sable Premier - 3.5L N/A Duratec

EcoPowerParts

Quote from: breeves002 on July 29, 2013, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on July 29, 2013, 12:28:56 PM
What should I choose to see the MSCAN bus when I connect?

I would just try different combinations. When it asks if you have a switch hit yes. I know you hit IDK before. If that doesn't work, then try hitting NO.
I'll try it in a bit. :)
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breeves002


Quote from: 4DRHTRD on July 29, 2013, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: breeves002 on July 29, 2013, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on July 29, 2013, 12:28:56 PM
What should I choose to see the MSCAN bus when I connect?

I would just try different combinations. When it asks if you have a switch hit yes. I know you hit IDK before. If that doesn't work, then try hitting NO.
I'll try it in a bit. :)

It's been a bit!! :P any findings?


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EcoPowerParts

I tried and it couldn't connect BUT 2 things happenned:
1. I said yes I have a switch, it started scanning and my advancetrac light went off in the dash.
2. I tried to clear a code and the ABS light came on.
Freaky!
Ask those Forscan guys if they can help us interject signals into the computer! Look at my AWD service manual thread.
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breeves002

Do the diagnostic thing or whatever it is so I can send it to them.


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breeves002

So I finally got another ELM and modified it (since selling mine to a member here), and did some more digging!

I found out that you can read your exact tire pressures in PSI through MS CAN and the SJB! My tire pressures were near spot on :) I had them filled to 33PSI cold, they are at 33PSI cold (almost).

I also found out that you can access your PAM module (either MS or HS CAN depending on the car) and see exact distances things are behind you and what sensor is reading it. Can do this with the BLIS radar as well. I'm assuming you can even do it with the ACC radar as well. Pretty cool way to see if the senors are working the way they should. I found after I cleaned the sensors really well they had a much longer range. It went from 255 to like 175 right away and now it goes from 255 to 225 instead then slowly goes down. 255 = 8 feet I think.
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2008 Mercury Sable Premier - 3.5L N/A Duratec

dalum

Any updates on this?  I want to get a new interface but I've been holding off.  I have a kiwi wifi and want to get something as fast as possible.  Even the delay in the factory tach bugs the hell out of me.  I have a new nexus7 2 coming so I think I need a bluetooth model?
2013 Non-PP SHO

breeves002

OBDLink MX seems to be one of the fastest out right now. Honestly unless you get something wired thats snap on brand you're not looking at anything thats going to be less laggy than your tach.

My OBDLink SX connected to my computer with ScanXL is not very laggy, but again thats a computer with professional software and corded transfer.

No new updates really. Haven't heard back from adelsin about what modules he found!
SHO Lover and Advanced Diagnostics Enthusiast
2008 Mercury Sable Premier - 3.5L N/A Duratec

dalum

I was looking through my workshop manual and found this info.  I thought you might be interested.  Also we were both right, the 13 has a bcm and the 3 networks connect to the DLC (data link connector) located under the instrument panel AND the bcm.

"Gateway Module

The Body Control Module (BCM) and Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) are the gateway modules. The BCM translates messages on the HS-CAN to the MS-CAN and vice versa. The IPC translates messages on the HS-CAN to the I-CAN and vice versa. This allows a message to be distributed through all three networks. The BCM and IPC are the only modules on this vehicle that have this ability."

There is also a giant list of messages broadcast by each module and the module(s) that receive the message.  Let me know if you want it.


2013 Non-PP SHO

breeves002

Interesting. There is MS, HS, and I CAN.

CAN has been going through the IC since it came out in 04. It's where HS and MS CAN meet up in my car.
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2008 Mercury Sable Premier - 3.5L N/A Duratec