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Would I benefit from a later shift to 3rd?

Started by ElvenSho, May 20, 2016, 12:21:44 AM

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FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: ElvenSho on May 20, 2016, 02:34:52 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on May 20, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on May 20, 2016, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on May 20, 2016, 12:59:51 PM
I think the sweet spot is 3k to 5k

It could be pulling spark with e85...hard to say without a you know what lol
I posted you know what before but you dont really look at them anymore lol

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Sorry i may have missed one lol but i thought your last one looked ok and i remember looking at one and not posting about it...i like looking at them so usuallly, even if i dont post about a log , i do look at them
But if you dont post anything ppl like me.have no clue what ur seeing haha. I will actually get one for you this weekend as long as its nice out. Just make sure you let me know what you see :)

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SHOdded

Quote from: ElvenSho on May 20, 2016, 02:23:00 PM
I wait for 0 to empty and drive another 20 miles. Than i put 3 gals of e85 and rest of 93 e0. Cant be too far off i would think
Understood.  I meant that you are pouring in what you THINK is E85, but it may not have actually been 85% alcohol.  There are variations in content nationwide, question is your gas station doing that also.
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 20, 2016, 03:12:59 PM
Since alcohol is cheaper than gas, IDK why any supplier would want to cheat.
Sure.  But stupidity still abounds.  And I haven't seen ONE person yet who has confirmed they are actually getting what they paid for at the pump with E85.  Would be nice to know for sure.
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ElvenSho

Quote from: SHOdded on May 20, 2016, 04:06:25 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on May 20, 2016, 02:23:00 PM
I wait for 0 to empty and drive another 20 miles. Than i put 3 gals of e85 and rest of 93 e0. Cant be too far off i would think
Understood.  I meant that you are pouring in what you THINK is E85, but it may not have actually been 85% alcohol.  There are variations in content nationwide, question is your gas station doing that also.
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 20, 2016, 03:12:59 PM
Since alcohol is cheaper than gas, IDK why any supplier would want to cheat.
Sure.  But stupidity still abounds.  And I haven't seen ONE person yet who has confirmed they are actually getting what they paid for at the pump with E85.  Would be nice to know for sure.
Its already a hastle mixing it each time.I get gas, no way will I be testing it too!

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ZSHO

Quote from: SHOdded on May 20, 2016, 04:06:25 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on May 20, 2016, 02:23:00 PM
I wait for 0 to empty and drive another 20 miles. Than i put 3 gals of e85 and rest of 93 e0. Cant be too far off i would think
Understood.  I meant that you are pouring in what you THINK is E85, but it may not have actually been 85% alcohol.  There are variations in content nationwide, question is your gas station doing that also.
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 20, 2016, 03:12:59 PM
Since alcohol is cheaper than gas, IDK why any supplier would want to cheat.
Sure.  But stupidity still abounds.  And I haven't seen ONE person yet who has confirmed they are actually getting what they paid for at the pump with E85.  Would be nice to know for sure.
Certainly agree because STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.lol  Z   :D


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ElvenSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on May 20, 2016, 02:37:02 PM
Deal!...but im working saturday day shift so give me time that day lol

Here you go, as promised! let me know what you see, I send it to Torrie to see if he can do more magic lol...
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AJP turbo

Sorry you waited too long

Just kidding...i will be on the old puter later tonight
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FoMoCoSHO


FoMoCoSHO

@11SHO

Knock sensor looks much better, flat until 5600 RPM.

Lowest FRP through the run was about 1450, might improve if he can dial out those pig rich areas where it drops to .75. (Your WOT target is .80, mine is .82 so that could yield higher FRP as well)


AJP turbo

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 23, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
@11SHO

Knock sensor looks much better, flat until 5600 RPM.

Lowest FRP through the run was about 1450, might improve if he can dial out those pig rich areas where it drops to .75. (Your WOT target is .80, mine is .82 so that could yield higher FRP as well)

I havent looked yet but what fomo says is probably spot on....although 1450 isnt bad if you werent so rich then pressure would come up

You are depleting the rail of fuel...if you lighten the fuel demand then pressure should rise...and the only way to lighten the fuel demand is too tell the ecu there is less airflow...there really isnt less airflow but because you have an external fuel source the ecu doesnt know why the afr is so rich...thats why i dont like the current approach that some are taking to the meth tuning or lack thereof
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Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
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3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

ElvenSho

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 23, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
@11SHO

How much corn in this log?
4 gal :)

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ElvenSho

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 23, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
@11SHO

Knock sensor looks much better, flat until 5600 RPM.

Lowest FRP through the run was about 1450, might improve if he can dial out those pig rich areas where it drops to .75. (Your WOT target is .80, mine is .82 so that could yield higher FRP as well)
Just got a revision and he also did some transmission tuning since i asked about quicker shift and rpms. Will do another log probably tomorrow.

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ElvenSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on May 23, 2016, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 23, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
@11SHO

Knock sensor looks much better, flat until 5600 RPM.

Lowest FRP through the run was about 1450, might improve if he can dial out those pig rich areas where it drops to .75. (Your WOT target is .80, mine is .82 so that could yield higher FRP as well)

I havent looked yet but what fomo says is probably spot on....although 1450 isnt bad if you werent so rich then pressure would come up

You are depleting the rail of fuel...if you lighten the fuel demand then pressure should rise...and the only way to lighten the fuel demand is too tell the ecu there is less airflow...there really isnt less airflow but because you have an external fuel source the ecu doesnt know why the afr is so rich...thats why i dont like the current approach that some are taking to the meth tuning or lack thereof
I do not have meth

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AJP turbo

Quote from: ElvenSho on May 23, 2016, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on May 23, 2016, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 23, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
@11SHO

Knock sensor looks much better, flat until 5600 RPM.

Lowest FRP through the run was about 1450, might improve if he can dial out those pig rich areas where it drops to .75. (Your WOT target is .80, mine is .82 so that could yield higher FRP as well)

I havent looked yet but what fomo says is probably spot on....although 1450 isnt bad if you werent so rich then pressure would come up

You are depleting the rail of fuel...if you lighten the fuel demand then pressure should rise...and the only way to lighten the fuel demand is too tell the ecu there is less airflow...there really isnt less airflow but because you have an external fuel source the ecu doesnt know why the afr is so rich...thats why i dont like the current approach that some are taking to the meth tuning or lack thereof
I do not have meth

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Ooops..ok i thought u did...wrong person ...i look tonight at the log...not sure why you would be so rich then?
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Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

ElvenSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on May 23, 2016, 04:38:11 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on May 23, 2016, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on May 23, 2016, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 23, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
@11SHO

Knock sensor looks much better, flat until 5600 RPM.

Lowest FRP through the run was about 1450, might improve if he can dial out those pig rich areas where it drops to .75. (Your WOT target is .80, mine is .82 so that could yield higher FRP as well)

I havent looked yet but what fomo says is probably spot on....although 1450 isnt bad if you werent so rich then pressure would come up

You are depleting the rail of fuel...if you lighten the fuel demand then pressure should rise...and the only way to lighten the fuel demand is too tell the ecu there is less airflow...there really isnt less airflow but because you have an external fuel source the ecu doesnt know why the afr is so rich...thats why i dont like the current approach that some are taking to the meth tuning or lack thereof
I do not have meth

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Ooops..ok i thought u did...wrong person ...i look tonight at the log...not sure why you would be so rich then?
Is that a good thing? Means he can get more boost out of it since there is extra fuel? Lol

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SHOnUup

Side note...we had guys testing E/85 here in Michigan. Winter months all of it was under 70%...ranged from 62-68%

So be careful as that mix changes.

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