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Would I benefit from a later shift to 3rd?

Started by ElvenSho, May 20, 2016, 12:21:44 AM

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ElvenSho



This is my car 40-110, notice once it shofts to 3rd it takes it a second or 2 to start pulling hard again, I think its shifting too early from 2nd and is not in powerband? What do you think?

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BiGMaC


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ElvenSho

Quote from: BiGMaC on May 20, 2016, 01:11:58 AM
What is your shift pressure?
Not sure, all I know is that 1st to 2nd was turned down a bit because of that grind/hop issue.

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Brucelinc

I didn't see anything particularly troublesome in the video.  I couldn't really see the tach but it looked like it was shifting around 6000-6200.  Mine shifts at 6200 and I wouldn't want it any higher.   I think when you ask for revised shift pressure, they only change the 1-2 shift.  I could be wrong about that but when I had mine done, it softened 1-2 but the others didn't seem to be impacted. 

I wonder if it could have been pulling a bit of timing right after the shift...possibly due to lower octane than it prefers?

ElvenSho

Quote from: Brucelinc on May 20, 2016, 09:03:18 AM
I didn't see anything particularly troublesome in the video.  I couldn't really see the tach but it looked like it was shifting around 6000-6200.  Mine shifts at 6200 and I wouldn't want it any higher.   I think when you ask for revised shift pressure, they only change the 1-2 shift.  I could be wrong about that but when I had mine done, it softened 1-2 but the others didn't seem to be impacted. 

I wonder if it could have been pulling a bit of timing right after the shift...possibly due to lower octane than it prefers?
Mine ahifts right before 6k, around 5900. Cant be pulling timing it has 93 with e85 in it. It always felt like that after it shifts to 3rd, like it takes it a second to get into the sweet spot again. Maybe i will have Torrie change the shift point a bit on that shift.

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Brucelinc

Does it also shift at 5900 on the 1-2 shift?  Seems like Torrie prefers lower shift points for some reason.  I like mine at the 6200 level but I have never tried it lower.   Sounds like a good plan for you to have yours raised. 

AJP turbo

I think the sweet spot is 3k to 5k

It could be pulling spark with e85...hard to say without a you know what lol
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E85 mixers should really be testing to see what they are getting.  Buy the test kit.
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ElvenSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on May 20, 2016, 12:59:51 PM
I think the sweet spot is 3k to 5k

It could be pulling spark with e85...hard to say without a you know what lol
I posted you know what before but you dont really look at them anymore lol

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ElvenSho

Quote from: SHOdded on May 20, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
E85 mixers should really be testing to see what they are getting.  Buy the test kit.
I wait for 0 to empty and drive another 20 miles. Than i put 3 gals of e85 and rest of 93 e0. Cant be too far off i would think

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ElvenSho

Quote from: Brucelinc on May 20, 2016, 12:58:36 PM
Does it also shift at 5900 on the 1-2 shift?  Seems like Torrie prefers lower shift points for some reason.  I like mine at the 6200 level but I have never tried it lower.   Sounds like a good plan for you to have yours raised.
Yup shifts the same in each gear, if i manual shift i feel like the car is still pulling the same after 6k so i will have it set to maybe 6200 and see how it does

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AJP turbo

Quote from: ElvenSho on May 20, 2016, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on May 20, 2016, 12:59:51 PM
I think the sweet spot is 3k to 5k

It could be pulling spark with e85...hard to say without a you know what lol
I posted you know what before but you dont really look at them anymore lol

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Sorry i may have missed one lol but i thought your last one looked ok and i remember looking at one and not posting about it...i like looking at them so usuallly, even if i dont post about a log , i do look at them
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ElvenSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on May 20, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on May 20, 2016, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on May 20, 2016, 12:59:51 PM
I think the sweet spot is 3k to 5k

It could be pulling spark with e85...hard to say without a you know what lol
I posted you know what before but you dont really look at them anymore lol

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Sorry i may have missed one lol but i thought your last one looked ok and i remember looking at one and not posting about it...i like looking at them so usuallly, even if i dont post about a log , i do look at them
But if you dont post anything ppl like me.have no clue what ur seeing haha. I will actually get one for you this weekend as long as its nice out. Just make sure you let me know what you see :)

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AJP turbo

Deal!...but im working saturday day shift so give me time that day lol
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405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: SHOdded on May 20, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
E85 mixers should really be testing to see what they are getting.  Buy the test kit.
I prefer to use their MSDS sheet

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/uploads/publication/SSA_MSDS.pdf

Since alcohol is cheaper than gas, IDK why any supplier would want to cheat.