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Livernois Tune Madness on "Winter Blend"

Started by 14SHOCAR, January 26, 2016, 02:23:25 PM

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FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: jmr061 on January 29, 2016, 09:14:38 PM
Would you possibly describe this issue as a short lived sudden miss?

This is what mine did when I had it:  https://youtu.be/ucgwkBqCxkc

watch around 40 MPH...it miss fires and redlines...never did solve the issue.
Is it still happening or was it a one time deal?

jmr061

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on January 29, 2016, 09:24:55 PM
Quote from: jmr061 on January 29, 2016, 09:14:38 PM
Would you possibly describe this issue as a short lived sudden miss?

This is what mine did when I had it:  https://youtu.be/ucgwkBqCxkc

watch around 40 MPH...it miss fires and redlines...never did solve the issue.
Is it still happening or was it a one time deal?

Did it all the time with a tune.  Fine with stock and yes plugs were re-gapped and all that.  Don't have the car anymore.  Unfortunately Livernois wasn't of much help in solving it.
Jason
16 Edge Sport

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: jmr061 on January 29, 2016, 09:26:13 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on January 29, 2016, 09:24:55 PM
Quote from: jmr061 on January 29, 2016, 09:14:38 PM
Would you possibly describe this issue as a short lived sudden miss?

This is what mine did when I had it:  https://youtu.be/ucgwkBqCxkc

watch around 40 MPH...it miss fires and redlines...never did solve the issue.
Is it still happening or was it a one time deal?

Did it all the time with a tune.  Fine with stock and yes plugs were re-gapped and all that.  Don't have the car anymore.  Unfortunately Livernois wasn't of much help in solving it.
Almost seemed like your tranny was slipping too...

jmr061

Yeah and you can't hear it but it would "pop" too.
Jason
16 Edge Sport

JMR76

Yep, that's what mine would do.  Just started doing that in the colder PA weather.
2013 SHO - PP/ GH Intercooler / 170*TS / Cold .026 plugs / MSD Coils / Corsa cat-back / PPE Catted Downpipes / Xtreme-DI XDI-EO HPFP / E 30+ / Gear Head Tuned.

ZSHO

#110
Quote from: jmr061 on January 29, 2016, 09:31:07 PM
Yeah and you can't hear it but it would "pop" too.
Jason didnt you have a Corsa exhaust back then?and the other member also,and lots of oil inside the spark plug wells does not help your issues,Btw the OP stated the pop is coming from his Corsa exhaust,find it quite odd ummm,think you need to change your plugs more often and check for any visible signs of oil inside the spark plug wells for a peace of mind,now if your car has less than 10k dont even share your opinion in the matter.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: ZSHO on January 29, 2016, 10:42:28 PM
Quote from: jmr061 on January 29, 2016, 09:31:07 PM
Yeah and you can't hear it but it would "pop" too.
Jason didnt you have a Corsa exhaust back then?and the other member also,and lots of oil inside the spark plug wells does not help your issues,Btw the OP stated the pop is coming from his Corsa exhaust,find it quite odd ummm,think you need to change your plugs more often and check for any visible signs of oil inside the spark plug wells for a peace of mind,now if your car has less than 10k dont even share your opinion in the matter.  Z
All this talk about plugs, I can't wait to see the plug service recommendations for the new Raptor and GT. I seriously doubt its every 15k.

BTW, last time I checked this is a public forum so Jason is welcome to share his opinion as is everyone else.


ZSHO

#112
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on January 29, 2016, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 29, 2016, 10:42:28 PM
Quote from: jmr061 on January 29, 2016, 09:31:07 PM
Yeah and you can't hear it but it would "pop" too.
Jason didnt you have a Corsa exhaust back then?and the other member also,and lots of oil inside the spark plug wells does not help your issues,Btw the OP stated the pop is coming from his Corsa exhaust,find it quite odd ummm,think you need to change your plugs more often and check for any visible signs of oil inside the spark plug wells for a peace of mind,now if your car has less than 10k dont even share your opinion in the matter.  Z
All this talk about plugs, I can't wait to see the plug service recommendations for the new Raptor and GT. I seriously doubt its every 15k.

BTW, last time I checked this is a public forum so Jason is welcome to share his opinion as is everyone else.
I'M actually waiting for Jasons quote and you are correct FoMoCoSHO, Yes sir!!


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

ZSHO

#113
I thought we suppose to keep it real and not outside the scope,i'm done here.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

jmr061

I was relating what I had experienced to the OP as it may be the same/similar issue which Livernois states that have never heard of...

If it is the same issue that would be incorrect as I have the emails back and forth with Livernois about the issue I was experiencing.  It doesn't matter how many miles are on the car which I traded in with 31k and it still had the same issue with the Livernois tune but was fine with the stock tuning.  I wasn't too concerned with the issue since I didn't drive around with my foot going to the floor all the time.  I just left it alone. 

The OP can watch the video and tell me if he feels it is a similar issue.  Didn't matter if it was summer or winter blend fuel either.

Don't have that issue with the 16 Sport I have now which I do have a Livernois tune in.
Jason
16 Edge Sport

SHOnUup

Was that video done in the cold? How cold and how long did it warm up?

Looks like a cold transmission not allowing a shift to me...just a guess, but I've seen other videos just like this from guys who get in car after a brief warmup thinking it's ok to go WOT already.



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2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

jmr061

Quote from: SHOnUup on January 30, 2016, 08:48:27 AM
Was that video done in the cold? How cold and how long did it warm up?

Looks like a cold transmission not allowing a shift to me...just a guess, but I've seen other videos just like this from guys who get in car after a brief warmup thinking it's ok to go WOT already.



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The engine was was warmed up as you can see by the coolant temp gauge.  That video is from 2.5 years ago.  Didn't matter if it was warm or not.  It did it ALL the time with the tune in it.
Jason
16 Edge Sport

SHOnUup

Quote from: jmr061 on January 30, 2016, 10:36:08 AM
Quote from: SHOnUup on January 30, 2016, 08:48:27 AM
Was that video done in the cold? How cold and how long did it warm up?

Looks like a cold transmission not allowing a shift to me...just a guess, but I've seen other videos just like this from guys who get in car after a brief warmup thinking it's ok to go WOT already.



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The engine was was warmed up as you can see by the coolant temp gauge.  That video is from 2.5 years ago.  Didn't matter if it was warm or not.  It did it ALL the time with the tune in it.
Couldn't really tell, not as familiar with the 13+ gauge setup. I can let mine warm up for 15 minutes to get the coolant to operating temps...but, it takes another 20+ minutes of driving to get the trans up to about 130* in temps that are below freezing. The trans warms very slow and caution should be taken to avoid any kind of WOT pulls before it is up to a decent temp.

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2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

AJP turbo

Quote from: SHOnUup on January 30, 2016, 11:17:08 AM
Quote from: jmr061 on January 30, 2016, 10:36:08 AM
Quote from: SHOnUup on January 30, 2016, 08:48:27 AM
Was that video done in the cold? How cold and how long did it warm up?

Looks like a cold transmission not allowing a shift to me...just a guess, but I've seen other videos just like this from guys who get in car after a brief warmup thinking it's ok to go WOT already.



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The engine was was warmed up as you can see by the coolant temp gauge.  That video is from 2.5 years ago.  Didn't matter if it was warm or not.  It did it ALL the time with the tune in it.
Couldn't really tell, not as familiar with the 13+ gauge setup. I can let mine warm up for 15 minutes to get the coolant to operating temps...but, it takes another 20+ minutes of driving to get the trans up to about 130* in temps that are below freezing. The trans warms very slow and caution should be taken to avoid any kind of WOT pulls before it is up to a decent temp.

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I havent noticed cool trans temps to be a problem...once my coolant is above 170ish i go wot when im out testing..ive never seen anything like jmr car

Shonuup does your car do that when cold also?
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SHOnUup

Quote from: ajpturbo on January 30, 2016, 12:07:34 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on January 30, 2016, 11:17:08 AM
Quote from: jmr061 on January 30, 2016, 10:36:08 AM
Quote from: SHOnUup on January 30, 2016, 08:48:27 AM
Was that video done in the cold? How cold and how long did it warm up?

Looks like a cold transmission not allowing a shift to me...just a guess, but I've seen other videos just like this from guys who get in car after a brief warmup thinking it's ok to go WOT already.



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The engine was was warmed up as you can see by the coolant temp gauge.  That video is from 2.5 years ago.  Didn't matter if it was warm or not.  It did it ALL the time with the tune in it.
Couldn't really tell, not as familiar with the 13+ gauge setup. I can let mine warm up for 15 minutes to get the coolant to operating temps...but, it takes another 20+ minutes of driving to get the trans up to about 130* in temps that are below freezing. The trans warms very slow and caution should be taken to avoid any kind of WOT pulls before it is up to a decent temp.

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I havent noticed cool trans temps to be a problem...once my coolant is above 170ish i go wot when im out testing..ive never seen anything like jmr car

Shonuup does your car do that when cold also?
I never get on my car when the trans temp is under 120-130 range. So I would have no idea if my car does that. I do notice slower shifting when the trans is not up to temps in normal driving though.



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2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.