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Has anyone had the Cold Start Rattle TSB done on their SHO?

Started by ClearwaterSHO, October 25, 2015, 11:29:26 PM

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ClearwaterSHO

I saw that there was a TSB out for the F150, not sure if it covers the SHO or not. I browsed the thread, but I  admit I didn't read it fully. My question is does anyone have this issue with their SHO, and if so, have they had it covered under the TSB? I assume the warranty will cover the TSB. Sorry, I've never had to have a TSB performed on one of my cars, as I usually just fix them myself, but this seems like a pretty big job.
2013 NON-PP SHO Tuxedo Black
Unleashed 3 Bar Tune -12.865 @ 106.5
AJP POWERED Tune - 12.59 @ 108.?

Mods: GH Intercooler, E30 Tune by AJPTurbo, SW Catless DP's, H&R Springs, MSD Coils (Is this a mod?)

SHOdded

Some have had it fixed under warranty, but not as a part of any TSB (officially).  A TSB does not mean it is automatically warrantied, it is merely a service bulletin to advise the shops of available fixes.  Typically only covered under new car coverage as far as warranty goes.  There ARE some TSBs that extend warranty coverage, such as on the APIM, but they are rare/far between.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ClearwaterSHO

Thank you for the answer. I'm not sure mine even does it. The engine seems to tick a little when it's first started, but sounds pretty normal to me. Maybe someone with a better trained ear could hear it. How pronounced is it? I listen to the video of someone's 2010 SHO, but even then I couldn't hear it outside of the first video for a brief second.
2013 NON-PP SHO Tuxedo Black
Unleashed 3 Bar Tune -12.865 @ 106.5
AJP POWERED Tune - 12.59 @ 108.?

Mods: GH Intercooler, E30 Tune by AJPTurbo, SW Catless DP's, H&R Springs, MSD Coils (Is this a mod?)

SHOdded

Ticking is not an issue, as long as it is regular.  The injectors will do that.  In fact, the entire DI setup, if you take the engine cover off, sounds like a diesel engine, which it kind of is.  Most people hear a very brief 1-2 second rattle, maybe like a marble in a tin box or a rattlesnake even, at cold startup.  This is due to lack of oil pressure in the phasers/timing chain area, most likely, so it is important to use the right weight oil as spec'd in the OM, and the OEM Motorcraft filter where the ADBV allows for quicker oil flow at cold start.  Don't overdo the OIC, as dirt in the oil can clog the phaser screens.

Timing chain rattle is very distinctive, caused by excessive slack in the chain, and may not be just at startup.  To be sure, you should use a mechanic's stethescope or a LONG screwdriver, place it on the timing cover area and take a good listen as you remote start (or have someone start) the engine.  Videos on YT, on the F150, very plainly heard.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

skippytx

Interesting.  I get a bit of a rattle when I use the remote start in the morning, I didn't think much about it.  I'll try to reproduce it later and see if it lines up with the info in that thread.
2013 Taurus SHO -His
2017 Explorer Sport - Hers

ZSHO

I was wondering if anyone mixing E85 was experiencing this cold start rattle,. Gasoline is added to E85 to improve its cold start characteristics and could possibly play an important role to this rattle.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

glock-coma


Quote from: ZSHO on October 28, 2015, 11:17:17 AM
I was wondering if anyone mixing E85 was experiencing this cold start rattle,. Gasoline is added to E85 to improve its cold start characteristics and could possibly play an important role to this rattle.  Z
I'm currently running a Torrie 20% e85 tune. I still have this issue on occasion.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: ZSHO on October 28, 2015, 11:17:17 AM
I was wondering if anyone mixing E85 was experiencing this cold start rattle,. Gasoline is added to E85 to improve its cold start characteristics and could possibly play an important role to this rattle.  Z
No issue on the 2013 or 2015.

Currently on an Unleashed E20 tune.


ecoboostsho

My 2011 did it before I ever mixed E85. The 2013 gets a steady diet and has never had the issue. Not sure its related...
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

ClearwaterSHO

I changed my oil to Amsoil in the PTU and the Engine today, so she is sounding perfect atm. No pings, no dings, no knocks, pulls hard and I just love this car!
2013 NON-PP SHO Tuxedo Black
Unleashed 3 Bar Tune -12.865 @ 106.5
AJP POWERED Tune - 12.59 @ 108.?

Mods: GH Intercooler, E30 Tune by AJPTurbo, SW Catless DP's, H&R Springs, MSD Coils (Is this a mod?)

salsathe4th

I get this on my 2010 MKS and would be louder the colder it starts from. Then again i get a squeaking sound from my belt during start up die to it being too lose and that could also cause the tensioner spring to rattle more.
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

curry67

After running bg EPR before an oil change i managed to almost make the noise non existent also put a can of bg moa after the change.

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!