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Started by Adam, October 22, 2015, 08:33:31 PM

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Adam

Well, I just got out of my 41,000 mile 2009.5 Pontiac G8 GTX that I bought new and stepped into a new SHO.  I like it.  Totally different feel than the G8.  Looking at making the car "fast" low 12s high 11s.

Looks like making those numbers is not easy to do.  My G8 was a mid 10s car on street tires and pump gas.

So far in the 3 weeks I have owned her, I have the APS turbo upgrade, Meth injection, 3 Bar map, LMS tune.  I see the CAI/Downpipe/and exhaust don't do much over pushing out a little more sound.  So what am I missing?

Thinking about going and swapping out and doing a new Garrett turbo  setup.  Do they make good hard pipes?

Anyway.  I will give updates.  I have the info to do a write up so far on LED lights from Drive Bright, I made matte black RS fender stripes, Lamin-x hood, headlight, trunk... clear film protector, G2 USA exact match caliper  paint kit for the UH Tuxedo Black Metallic, Rear window roof spoiler, LED switchback lights, and a few other goodies.  Once I get the minimum amount of posts in here, I will start doing some how-to things for you guys if you want to try them out on your own.

Adam

Do I have to answer the like 5 questions and verification code every time I make a post?

ZSHO

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Welcome aboard the E.B.P.F partner,please post some pics of the new ride and to answer your question related to performance there are a few things to take into perspective like having access to 93 octane,Altitude,(elevation)also would make sure that your tuned for methanol,and personally sounds like you need a good set of PPE Down pipes from www.ecopowerparts,he also carries the hardpipes as you mentioned,best of luck with the new ride.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

glock-coma

Welcome Adam!! Sounds like your on the rack track.
Any time slips yet?
That list of mods should put you deep into the low 12's

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2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

SHOdded

Welcome to EBPF, Adam, 'gratz on the SHO!  No time a-wasting on the mod front :thumb:
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO

It will be great if you would enlighten us more about the APS turbo upgrade on your new SHO, due tell.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

PokerMunkee

I'd install some down pipes for sure, let those turbos breath and produce power sooner.

Sounds like the making of a record breaking SHO.  Can't wait to see what you do with her!

I had a 2006 GTO and love my SHO much more. 
2013 SHO PP - Ignot Silver/Charcoal
Unleashed 91 tune w/ 3BAR, Corsa exhaust, LEDs everywhere
2011 F-250 6.2 CCSB FX4

Adam

Quote from: ZSHO on October 22, 2015, 10:05:35 PM
It will be great if you would enlighten us more about the APS turbo upgrade on your new SHO, due tell.  Z

Same notion as the ATP except is 2 mm larger trim all the way around over the ATP and $400 less at a local shop.  Using the stock core.  They laughed and said new ones don't show up as nice as the ones they took off the car.  I want to say the ATP was $2500 and APS was 2100.  Should allow for max boost for the setup.  Though spool up will take a smidge longer. 

Do they make anything to bullet proof the trans?  I was looking online for things like a Stall converter as well, or gearing swap?  Not trying to go crazy with the car, just want to have fun with it.  Warranty is already out the window

Adam

This may also sound stupid, or may be common knowledge, but I am running 23 degrees cooler according to my Aeroforce gauge after just removing the beauty cover and running without it on top of the engine with all that sound proofing holding heat in.  Just a basic, but I doubt enough heat is produced to cause any harm to the paint, since its not enough heat to cause harm to a piece of plastic.

Again, it may already be a basic 'How To' keep your car running cooler, then again maybe not.  Anything I can do to help out on here, let me know.

SHOdded

The trans, given regular fluid changes with quality fluid, is pretty bulletproof.  The PTU needs much more of that love to stay in primo condition.  The more you thrash it, the more regularly you should R&R the PTU fluid.  The RDU, having more fluid capacity and less demand overall, rarely has a problem, but can happen.

Good point on the engine cover.  It is oft removed, esp at track and during summer, to keep the bay cooler.  Most of the heat is kind of concentrated in a line across the rear of the hood, as evidenced by snow & ice melt :)  First time though I have heard of an actual number being put to the effect :thumb: 

Another mod, usually for track only, is to remove the hood weatherstrip at the firewall to allow another avenue for heat to escape. 

For even more venting, adding vents to the hood works very well.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

bpd1151

Circle D made a higher stall converter for a prior 2010 owner, who has since parted ways with the platform and.....

It didn't do jack diddly do for him.

Other than cause him to go .6 slower in the 1/4.

Even then, modified tuning allowed him to gain .3 back, but suffice to say, based on that outcome, Circle D never made anymore.

There's nothing else currently available tranny wise, but I did hear grumblings of someone working on something as far as hardening a portion of the internals, but haven't heard results of those efforts yet.



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EcoPowerParts

Quote from: bpd1151 on October 23, 2015, 01:21:46 AM
Circle D made a higher stall converter for a prior 2010 owner, who has since parted ways with the platform and.....

It didn't do jack diddly do for him.

Other than cause him to go .6 slower in the 1/4.

Even then, modified tuning allowed him to gain .3 back, but suffice to say, based on that outcome, Circle D never made anymore.

There's nothing else currently available tranny wise, but I did hear grumblings of someone working on something as far as hardening a portion of the internals, but haven't heard results of those efforts yet.



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I have that converter sitting in my garage....

Welcome btw, pretty easy to get fast, ATP turbos, down pipes, and either race gas or E85 and custom fuel system. :)
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Adam

Circle D did the 3600 Stall for my car.  It lost 38HP at the fly, HOWEVER. it gained .1 in the 60' and shaved off .28 on the 1/4 mile bringing it down to a 10.33 on 285 street slicks.  Not sure what a true drag tire would have done.  It held the 781 wheel horse power just fine.  I know some people gripe about Chris the owner at circle D but I beat up on mine and had no issues.

May I ask where all the powertrain loss comes from?  I mean its not uncommon to see 12-18% loss.  It appears though the car is not totally broken in yet, but I am at a 23-24% loss.  That is HUGE.  I mean it has a loss of roughly 1/4 of its power by the time it hits the wheels.  The car must be front wheel biased as well.  If I jump on it off the line, the front tires spin, the rear gets some power and chirp then the car catches and takes off.  I can't seem to find a way to turn off the 'nanny mode' either.  Stability control and traction control kick on even when I go through the toggle menu to turn it off on the left side of the steering wheel buttons.  Can it be turned off or have my LMS tune wipe it out?

66 Galaxie

Didn't see any Ford applications listed on APS website, are your' s prototype?
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