PP or Non-PP: Who's Got What POLL

mval · April 02, 2015, 10:04:29 AM

manu: a question on the your thread of taking care of the alcantara. i thought i read early on not to use scotchguard on it as would plug up the holes for the cooled seat. so i have only ever just washed it with damp white rag w/ gentle soap.

SHOdded · April 02, 2015, 10:43:06 AM

Quote from: mval on April 02, 2015, 10:04:29 AM
manu: a question on the your thread of taking care of the alcantara. i thought i read early on not to use scotchguard on it as would plug up the holes for the cooled seat. so i have only ever just washed it with damp white rag w/ gentle soap.

Honestly don't know, it IS silicone based though. I would do what you do, TBH, and to be on the safe side.

Here's another post, for a product that may be better suited:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?s=c788aa63233de8f9c1b46bdfe17d5299&p=9456900&postcount=6

SHOdded · April 02, 2015, 10:51:03 AM

C'MON non-PP!!! Can't let PP beat you on this too

wasinger3000 · April 02, 2015, 10:58:14 AM

Quote from: SHOdded on April 02, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
C'MON non-PP!!! Can't let PP beat you on this too

IHeartGroceries · April 02, 2015, 03:11:47 PM

Quote from: mval on April 02, 2015, 10:04:29 AM
manu: a question on the your thread of taking care of the alcantara. i thought i read early on not to use scotchguard on it as would plug up the holes for the cooled seat. so i have only ever just washed it with damp white rag w/ gentle soap.

This is how I have cared for the stuff on the wheel thus far. It's clean...I just have one or two unusual balding spots.

I DO need to visit the service dept. I have several outstanding recalls. Lol

It would be my very first Ford service dept. visit. I'm a little skeptical of their work, after many stories I've seen here. :/

Any DFW guys here want to recommend a dealer around here?

pejohnson · April 02, 2015, 04:16:37 PM

On topic. PP for me. Wanted all the stuff in the package and more.

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FoMoCoSHO · April 02, 2015, 05:50:01 PM

Quote from: wasinger3000 on April 02, 2015, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 02, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
C'MON non-PP!!! Can't let PP beat you on this too

Sorry, i switched to the darkside, they had cookies...

SHOnUup · April 02, 2015, 08:10:45 PM

Wonder what the weight difference is with all those nice cookies, is that why the non pp can hang in the 1/4...hmmm

Rich

anthonylee337 · April 02, 2015, 08:25:11 PM

Our engines have knock limiters and the computer can adjust the output of the engine to prevent fuel pre burn-with a higher octane fuel the computer lets the engine go with no limits! I was referring to my engine sounding louder from 87 to 93 octane and Iheartgroceries I know the difference in the sound of my engine despite what you might think my brother! It's all good!

IHeartGroceries · April 02, 2015, 08:36:28 PM

Keep buying VPower. It keeps me employed.

anthonylee337 · April 02, 2015, 09:13:09 PM

I will start to use Chevron just to piss you off! Lol! Jk-to be honest I started using Shell from convenience-it is on my way home from work!

AJP turbo · April 02, 2015, 09:13:57 PM

Quote from: anthonylee337 on April 02, 2015, 08:25:11 PM
Our engines have knock limiters and the computer can adjust the output of the engine to prevent fuel pre burn-with a higher octane fuel the computer lets the engine go with no limits! I was referring to my engine sounding louder from 87 to 93 octane and Iheartgroceries I know the difference in the sound of my engine despite what you might think my brother! It's all good!

There are many limits my friend....u could run 200 octane fuel and only so much timing will be added...the stock tune will only allow a maximum of 4 degrees to be added when the knock sensors see fit....even when tuned that won't change but the base timing is usually bumped up a little..you don't want to set the learned knock tables too high in case of component failure

AJP turbo · April 02, 2015, 09:17:10 PM

Quote from: SHOnUup on April 02, 2015, 08:10:45 PM
Wonder what the weight difference is with all those nice cookies, is that why the non pp can hang in the 1/4...hmmm

Rich

Being able to hang with a faster car is kinda cool but if you lose by 2 car lengths you're still slower

anthonylee337 · April 02, 2015, 09:32:03 PM

Ok I should've been more clear with my statement-the Ecoboost engine was designed for 93 octane and there is a difference in power output with a higher grade fuel. I didn't mean the engine runs at no limits with 93-of course they'll always have limits!

AJP turbo · April 02, 2015, 09:40:51 PM

Quote from: anthonylee337 on April 02, 2015, 09:32:03 PM
Ok I should've been more clear with my statement-the Ecoboost engine was designed for 93 octane and there is a difference in power output with a higher grade fuel. I didn't mean the engine runs at no limits with 93-of course they'll always have limits!

I wouldn't say it was designed for 93 at all....In fact I'd say it was designed for 87....That's one of, if not the best benefit of direct injection....More compression, and boost and regular fuel or more compression and a lot more boost with premium lol....It was a game changer....Much more difficult for pre-ignition and detonation to occur since the fuel isn't introduced until just barely before combustion..There was a ford rep at the Pittsburgh auto show a few years back showing the SHO and at the time he said it was one of the few Turbo cars that didn't require premium fuel and he was correct....It's rare when you see a factory turbo car running 10.6:1 compression AND regular gas...Most factory turbo cars are lucky to be in the 9's if not 8's for compression...Thank direct injection for that. It's just kind of a shame of the inherent carbon problem on the valves.