Lots of boost and methanol

[FoMoCoSHO]

This just furthers the notion more that I need to datalog! What device are you using to datalog if you don't mind me asking? I'm stuck with all Apple products in the household so using a Windows based computer isn't really an option unfortunately, was thinking of picking up a cheap android tablet.

x4 and a cheap windows laptop.

x4 is limited as to how many parameters you can log before it cries uncle...

In bridge mode with my laptop, I was able to log all 35 parameters Torrie requests.

[Frozen Taurus]

I am curious to see how long these tiny turbos last at this boost level....I have toasted my share of small T series turbos boosting over their comfort zone.

I feel bad for you...wonder what other mechanical problems may have contributed to your problems...I've never had turbo problems and I make them suffer....wonder how the turbos on diesel trucks survive?..same basic turbo design as far as the chra goes...they boost to the moon....even the guys that run 20 plus psi on these turbos don't spend a lot of time there

Boost and shaft speed/vibrations are not mutual though ... A garrett T25 on my Talon ate itself up at 20 psi ...but my new GT35 is just getting started at 20 psi 

[Wojomojo]

Attached a datalog I ran today. Just a quick 0-100 run. This is still a work in progress though! We're continuing to up the boost as much as possible to still be safe. Mostly spikes in the low 20's as far as boost. Leveling out around 18-20 though for most of the time.

I use the X4 to datalog. I bring my windows laptop and use the livelink to datalog. That way I can just save the datalog from my laptop and it's done. There's no apple support from sct? That would suck. If you could just datalog on the tuner and then somehow get the logs from the device from the apple computer that'd be nice.

On a side note, if these turbos get fried, it's just a good excuse to upgrade to atp turbos!

[SHOdded]

Intake temps are amazing, 27 or more below ambient!  CAC temp not so good, rising above 35 mph?  FRP looks good at just about 2200 psi max, typical of the Gen 4.1 (4.2's run upto 2500 psi).  Almost 1/2 second to full throttle, easing in?  Coolant temps looking good, typical rise to 205F or so after WOT run.

You have done the PTU service, right?  Did you check and empty out the intercooler?  The liquid puddles on the other end of the IC.

[AJP turbo]

Intake temps are amazing, 27 or more below ambient!  CAC temp not so good, rising above 35 mph?  FRP looks good at just about 2200 psi max, typical of the Gen 4.1 (4.2's run upto 2500 psi).  Almost 1/2 second to full throttle, easing in?  Coolant temps looking good, typical rise to 205F or so after WOT run.

You have done the PTU service, right?  Did you check and empty out the intercooler?  The liquid puddles on the other end of the IC.

What is gen 4.1 and 4.2?...and the fuel pressure isn't specific to year...it is configurable in the tune ...there are tables to change set point for fuel pressure...I guess it could be different in the different strategies but I think most tuners ramp it up earlier

[FoMoCoSHO]

Intake temps are amazing, 27 or more below ambient!  CAC temp not so good, rising above 35 mph?  FRP looks good at just about 2200 psi max, typical of the Gen 4.1 (4.2's run upto 2500 psi).  Almost 1/2 second to full throttle, easing in?  Coolant temps looking good, typical rise to 205F or so after WOT run.

You have done the PTU service, right?  Did you check and empty out the intercooler?  The liquid puddles on the other end of the IC.

What is gen 4.1 and 4.2?...and the fuel pressure isn't specific to year...it is configurable in the tune ...there are tables to change set point for fuel pressure...I guess it could be different in the different strategies but I think most tuners ramp it up earlier

Is there anything to change specific gravity of the fuel?

[FoMoCoSHO]

Intake temps are amazing, 27 or more below ambient!  CAC temp not so good, rising above 35 mph?  FRP looks good at just about 2200 psi max, typical of the Gen 4.1 (4.2's run upto 2500 psi).  Almost 1/2 second to full throttle, easing in?  Coolant temps looking good, typical rise to 205F or so after WOT run.

You have done the PTU service, right?  Did you check and empty out the intercooler?  The liquid puddles on the other end of the IC.

What is gen 4.1 and 4.2?...and the fuel pressure isn't specific to year...it is configurable in the tune ...there are tables to change set point for fuel pressure...I guess it could be different in the different strategies but I think most tuners ramp it up earlier

Gen 4.1 2010-12
Gen 4.2 2013+

With 2150 commanded on the pump, I see rail pressures over 2700 on the rail.

[Wojomojo]

No I mashed the pedal I believe ha. Didn't ease in. It was pretty nice out today (like 55ish). I tried to get what liquid I could from the intercooler when I did my methanol kit. Lots of oil in there. I tried pumping but couldn't get any to come out. Zip tied shop towels to the end of my oil dip stick and got a lot out that way.

Is 64 Celsius in the cac too hot? Is that not normal?

[FoMoCoSHO]

No I mashed the pedal I believe ha. Didn't ease in. It was pretty nice out today (like 55ish). I tried to get what liquid I could from the intercooler when I did my methanol kit. Lots of oil in there. I tried pumping but couldn't get any to come out. Zip tied shop towels to the end of my oil dip stick and got a lot out that way.

Is 64 Celsius in the cac too hot? Is that not normal?

145 degrees is normal for a bunch of stop and go driving.

[AJP turbo]

Intake temps are amazing, 27 or more below ambient!  CAC temp not so good, rising above 35 mph?  FRP looks good at just about 2200 psi max, typical of the Gen 4.1 (4.2's run upto 2500 psi).  Almost 1/2 second to full throttle, easing in?  Coolant temps looking good, typical rise to 205F or so after WOT run.

You have done the PTU service, right?  Did you check and empty out the intercooler?  The liquid puddles on the other end of the IC.

What is gen 4.1 and 4.2?...and the fuel pressure isn't specific to year...it is configurable in the tune ...there are tables to change set point for fuel pressure...I guess it could be different in the different strategies but I think most tuners ramp it up earlier

Gen 4.1 2010-12
Gen 4.2 2013+

With 2150 commanded on the pump, I see rail pressures over 2700 on the rail.

Interesting....there are adders and compensations that could add to the base set pressure

[FoMoCoSHO]

Intake temps are amazing, 27 or more below ambient!  CAC temp not so good, rising above 35 mph?  FRP looks good at just about 2200 psi max, typical of the Gen 4.1 (4.2's run upto 2500 psi).  Almost 1/2 second to full throttle, easing in?  Coolant temps looking good, typical rise to 205F or so after WOT run.

You have done the PTU service, right?  Did you check and empty out the intercooler?  The liquid puddles on the other end of the IC.

What is gen 4.1 and 4.2?...and the fuel pressure isn't specific to year...it is configurable in the tune ...there are tables to change set point for fuel pressure...I guess it could be different in the different strategies but I think most tuners ramp it up earlier

Gen 4.1 2010-12
Gen 4.2 2013+

With 2150 commanded on the pump, I see rail pressures over 2700 on the rail.

Interesting....there are adders and compensations that could add to the base set pressure

Can you adjust when the regulator opens?

[Wojomojo]

Did another datalog run with a new tune Torrie sent me.. Really pushed it hard this time. Feel free to take a look, I attached it. Coolant hit 209, CAC hit 145 again, air intake temps rose from 65 to 95 degrees Fahrenheit.. Airaid's not sealing too well Might have to try and mod it to seal better.

[SHOdded]

Definitely chalkline the Airaid see where the gaps are.  Worth the mod if needed!

So, if I am reading this correctly, the SHO's times are:
0-60:  5 seconds
0-100:  11 seconds
60-100:  6 seconds
Maybe we can't really go by the mph data, since there are many places where speed gaps by as much as 5 mph in 0.025 seconds!  Maybe the device is crying "Uncle" when it "freeze frames" lol.  How is it connected to the OBD port?

I would think though you could hit 4 second 0-60 times with a boosted launch, tried that?

[FoMoCoSHO]

Definitely chalkline the Airaid see where the gaps are.  Worth the mod if needed!

So, if I am reading this correctly, the SHO's times are:
0-60:  5 seconds
0-100:  11 seconds
60-100:  6 seconds
Maybe we can't really go by the mph data, since there are many places where speed gaps by as much as 5 mph in 0.025 seconds!  Maybe the device is crying "Uncle" when it "freeze frames" lol.  How is it connected to the OBD port?

I would think though you could hit 4 second 0-60 times with a boosted launch, tried that?

My suspicion is that on a properly timed track, he has a low 4 or high 3 second car.

I was at 4.1 without meth...

[wasinger3000]

Wish we could just use a laptop without the x4 as the medium. It's to slow.