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Lots of boost and methanol

Started by Wojomojo, March 31, 2015, 11:28:05 PM

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Wojomojo

Still doing some data logging with Torrie but my car is running insane right now with a 80/20 blend of methanol. The entire first gear chirps tires and the beginning of second too. Pulls extremely hard all the way through past 100.

So right now I'm hitting 21-22 psi on stock turbos. I had no idea they could hit that?! Still have zero knock and car's running 15 degrees cooler under wot than before methanol (also added a 170 thermostat). Here is a picture showing 21.9 psi of boost (used to see 16.5 before meth)

Justin "Wojo"

2010 Tuxedo Black SHO - non-pp, 20's, nav, massage seats - Torrie Tuned, Dynomax Mufflers, Magnaflow x pipe (3rd cat + resonator delete), 3 bar map, airaid CAI, SP534 .030 plugs. Meth injection and 170 degree thermostat soon! Plastidipped rims and other accessories. 344awhp and 375 awtq on a mustang dyno called "The Heart Breaker"

wasinger3000

Glad to see your meth kit is working out. Have you tried 100% meth yet? Im running 90%m 10%w.

I see boost levels in that same area and sometimes higher even.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

Gray Brick

Upload your data log so we can look at the detailed info. :)
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

Wojomojo

Haha will do I'll upload a data log tomorrow. I haven't tried 100% yet. Torrie said he generally likes to do 80/20 so I figured I'd try that out and so far so good. From researching most say 80/20 is the best in most cases because of various reasons.
Justin "Wojo"

2010 Tuxedo Black SHO - non-pp, 20's, nav, massage seats - Torrie Tuned, Dynomax Mufflers, Magnaflow x pipe (3rd cat + resonator delete), 3 bar map, airaid CAI, SP534 .030 plugs. Meth injection and 170 degree thermostat soon! Plastidipped rims and other accessories. 344awhp and 375 awtq on a mustang dyno called "The Heart Breaker"

Gray Brick

Was this with the current 80/20 meth tune?
344awhp and 375 awtq on a mustang dyno called "The Heart Breaker"
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

Wojomojo

No that was before the methanol and 170 thermostat. That was just the 3 bar/airaid/tune
Justin "Wojo"

2010 Tuxedo Black SHO - non-pp, 20's, nav, massage seats - Torrie Tuned, Dynomax Mufflers, Magnaflow x pipe (3rd cat + resonator delete), 3 bar map, airaid CAI, SP534 .030 plugs. Meth injection and 170 degree thermostat soon! Plastidipped rims and other accessories. 344awhp and 375 awtq on a mustang dyno called "The Heart Breaker"

bpd1151

Nice to see others jump'n in on the Meth addiction.

Continued successes! :ok:

SHOdded

The 2x psi are spikes only, right?  The turbos (Garrett GT15-based for transverse) are quite inefficient at that point.  There's been discussions on here about the best "range", I believe the boundary is 18 psi.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,3387.msg52461.html#msg52461



http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/turbocharger#GT1548
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

AJP turbo

The turbos may become more inefficient at over 18 psi but it's not like u hit a brick wall...I run them to 20 psi everyday and I don't use meth or any of that stuff....the meth helps and is good I'm not arguing that I just prefer to keep mine simple for now
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

11BLKFX4EB

Those are great numbers! What meth kit are you running? And what was outside air temp at that reading?
2014 SHO w/ PP Platinum White
Unleashed tuned, H&R Springs, 35% tint, Corsa catback coming...

2015 Explorer Sport Magnetic Metallic-stock...for now.

J-Will

AHH!!!!!  I want meth so bad!

I am waiting for two more pieces to the puzzle before I can take the plunge:
pre installed bung on a noise-eliminator pipe
reservoir large enough to be useful, designed and installed where the factory intake box would be (the space the MDesign intake frees up... also, I need to buy the MDesign intake :)
2014 Factory Order SHO (non pp) Deep Impact Blue
Gearhead Automotive Performance Tune
3-bar
SP-542 plugs w/ GH gap

Wojomojo

Quote from: SHOdded on April 01, 2015, 04:52:36 AM
The 2x psi are spikes only, right?  The turbos (Garrett GT15-based for transverse) are quite inefficient at that point.  There's been discussions on here about the best "range", I believe the boundary is 18 psi.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,3387.msg52461.html#msg52461



http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/turbocharger#GT1548
When I hit 22 it's very briefly, but I do hang around in the 20s for a little while when it starts a new gear under wot. As the middle/end of 2nd and 3rd gear come the boost drops slowly down into the teens
Justin "Wojo"

2010 Tuxedo Black SHO - non-pp, 20's, nav, massage seats - Torrie Tuned, Dynomax Mufflers, Magnaflow x pipe (3rd cat + resonator delete), 3 bar map, airaid CAI, SP534 .030 plugs. Meth injection and 170 degree thermostat soon! Plastidipped rims and other accessories. 344awhp and 375 awtq on a mustang dyno called "The Heart Breaker"

Frozen Taurus

I am curious to see how long these tiny turbos last at this boost level....I have toasted my share of small T series turbos boosting over their comfort zone.
2011 Tuxedo Black SHO non PP, K&N drop in, TCE Big Brake Kit, Megan Racing Coilovers
My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

AJP turbo

Quote from: Frozen Taurus on April 01, 2015, 11:12:02 AM
I am curious to see how long these tiny turbos last at this boost level....I have toasted my share of small T series turbos boosting over their comfort zone.

I feel bad for you...wonder what other mechanical problems may have contributed to your problems...I've never had turbo problems and I make them suffer....wonder how the turbos on diesel trucks survive?..same basic turbo design as far as the chra goes...they boost to the moon....even the guys that run 20 plus psi on these turbos don't spend a lot of time there
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

MDesign Performance

This just furthers the notion more that I need to datalog! What device are you using to datalog if you don't mind me asking? I'm stuck with all Apple products in the household so using a Windows based computer isn't really an option unfortunately, was thinking of picking up a cheap android tablet.
2011 MKS EcoBoost: MDesign Carbon Cold Air Intake; SP-534 Plugs; Power Stop C/S Rotors

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