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Finally Tuned!!! But wait .. Snow

Started by moem1090, February 26, 2015, 11:16:26 AM

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SHOdded

Yup.  If you can't get straight 93 gas, I'd highly recommend 91 tune + 93 gas.  If you keep your foot out of it, like Z said, you can keep the 93 tune loaded.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

moem1090


Quote from: SHOdded on February 26, 2015, 03:25:44 PM
Yup.  If you can't get straight 93 gas, I'd highly recommend 91 tune + 93 gas.  If you keep your foot out of it, like Z said, you can keep the 93 tune loaded.

Yeah I only fill Shell 93 vpower
2013 Roush Stage 3: Supercharged & Ready to Go Fast
2010 SHO - Daily: Corsa Cat-Back, Roush CAI, LME Downpipes, LME 3-Bar, LME Thermostat, LME Tune 4+

ElvenSho

Quote from: moem1090 on February 26, 2015, 03:27:25 PM

Quote from: SHOdded on February 26, 2015, 03:25:44 PM
Yup.  If you can't get straight 93 gas, I'd highly recommend 91 tune + 93 gas.  If you keep your foot out of it, like Z said, you can keep the 93 tune loaded.

Yeah I only fill Shell 93 vpower

Even with shell 93 cpower its probably not as good as it is during summer time. I would still not take a chance and go to 91 tune for now.
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

moem1090


Quote from: ElvenSho on February 26, 2015, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: moem1090 on February 26, 2015, 03:27:25 PM

Quote from: SHOdded on February 26, 2015, 03:25:44 PM
Yup.  If you can't get straight 93 gas, I'd highly recommend 91 tune + 93 gas.  If you keep your foot out of it, like Z said, you can keep the 93 tune loaded.

Yeah I only fill Shell 93 vpower

Even with shell 93 cpower its probably not as good as it is during summer time. I would still not take a chance and go to 91 tune for now.

That's good to know, I'll make the switch later on today or tomorrow till the weather is about 40°
2013 Roush Stage 3: Supercharged & Ready to Go Fast
2010 SHO - Daily: Corsa Cat-Back, Roush CAI, LME Downpipes, LME 3-Bar, LME Thermostat, LME Tune 4+

bpd1151

Do you think Ford Motor Company offers tunes for different seasons?

Umm no. They don't. And they're equally as safe as an aftermarket tune is, when going WOT.

I routinely go WOT during the Winter months (when road conditions permit) on my DD driven tune file and have experienced ZERO ISSUES.

@ ElvenSho.... We all get the fact that you don't agree with certain vendors who don't care for data logging (& the explanations why have been explained numerous times) versus those vendors who do.....

Please..... Enough already.

All the tunes, offered by all the vendors are safe. Some just utilize different means to obtain an end. Move on already. Geezuz.

ElvenSho

Quote from: bpd1151 on February 26, 2015, 03:33:36 PM
Do you think Ford Motor Company offers tunes for different seasons?

Umm no. They don't. And they're equally as safe as an aftermarket tune is, when going WOT.

I routinely go WOT during the Winter months (when road conditions permit) on my DD driven tune file and have experienced ZERO ISSUES.

@ ElvenSho.... We all get the fact that you don't agree with certain vendors who don't care for data logging (& the explanations why have been explained numerous times) versus those vendors who do.....

Please..... Enough already.

All the tunes, offered by all the vendors are safe. Some just utilize different means to obtain an end. Move on already. Geezuz.

I am sorry you feel that way about me asking some questions. I never stated Unleashed tune is better then any other company. I was just questioning and trying to learn stuff. I guess even with a tune the car can still adjust as in your case, which I was not sure about.
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

Wojomojo

I run my 91 octane tune up in northern mn using the winter blend 91. No problems, even at 16psi. Car runs great. That being said, the nearest gas station that offers 93 octane is over 100 miles away, or I might consider running 93. Either way it's not something you should be really worried about. Like others have stated, the car is smarter than you think, and it'll make sure it's not destroying itself in situations like that.
Justin "Wojo"

2010 Tuxedo Black SHO - non-pp, 20's, nav, massage seats - Torrie Tuned, Dynomax Mufflers, Magnaflow x pipe (3rd cat + resonator delete), 3 bar map, airaid CAI, SP534 .030 plugs. Meth injection and 170 degree thermostat soon! Plastidipped rims and other accessories. 344awhp and 375 awtq on a mustang dyno called "The Heart Breaker"

SHOnUup

Hope the snow clears for ya soon enough to rightfully test out the new found breeze that propels the sails of the land yacht to sub 4 sec 0-60 pulls.

I'm running the 93 tune from Livernois also, have been all winter. At the arrival of winter blend fuel I watched some timing being pulled more than usual in "lugging" conditions, but at WOT the car was still in safe areas I felt (+1.5 kr at max through torque pro). Started to add a little e/85 (1.5 gallons) to each tank.

Cured the higher readings I was seeing and still in a safe area for ethanol %.

I do get fuel from a high traffic, nice car area(3,500 gallons of premium a week), from a fuel provider suggested by Livernois for our area....BP

Just be sure that all the fluids in the car are up to operating temps before getting on it in the cold. Even after letting car warm up for 10 minutes, it still takes another 10 minutes of driving to get the trans temp up to 100* in this cold.

Good luck with ecobeast, can't wait to hear your thoughts on the tune.


Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

moem1090


Quote from: Wojomojo on February 26, 2015, 04:04:22 PM
I run my 91 octane tune up in northern mn using the winter blend 91. No problems, even at 16psi. Car runs great. That being said, the nearest gas station that offers 93 octane is over 100 miles away, or I might consider running 93. Either way it's not something you should be really worried about. Like others have stated, the car is smarter than you think, and it'll make sure it's not destroying itself in situations like that.

Thanks for your input
2013 Roush Stage 3: Supercharged & Ready to Go Fast
2010 SHO - Daily: Corsa Cat-Back, Roush CAI, LME Downpipes, LME 3-Bar, LME Thermostat, LME Tune 4+

bpd1151

Quote from: ElvenSho on February 26, 2015, 03:05:20 PMUntil few days ago before I started tuning with Torrie I wouldn't have known that weather or winter gas has an effect on the tunes.

It seems to me like people could blow up their cars or something if they plan to run a 93 octane tune as a dd during winter.

The obvious doesn't have to be stated here.....

The OP, who expressed excitement about his newly uploaded tune file (which happens to be from LMS and oddly enough, it is well known they don't utilize data logging) shouldn't have to concern himself with statements such as "people could blow up their cars" by implying they use a tune file that doesn't incorporate data logging for perceived winter fuel conditions.

That's a completely baseless allegation.

The fact is, any of the aftermarket tunes currently offered by any of the vendors thus far, have proven reliable and safe. Regardless of winter or summer fuel blends.

To the OP, once again, enjoy your newly found power. No matter what grade, or what blend of fuel you happen to use, you can feel comfortable and rest assured, regardless of reckless statements posted, you will not blow up your engine. Good God.






moem1090


Quote from: SHOnUup on February 26, 2015, 04:36:15 PM
Hope the snow clears for ya soon enough to rightfully test out the new found breeze that propels the sails of the land yacht to sub 4 sec 0-60 pulls.

I'm running the 93 tune from Livernois also, have been all winter. At the arrival of winter blend fuel I watched some timing being pulled more than usual in "lugging" conditions, but at WOT the car was still in safe areas I felt (+1.5 kr at max through torque pro). Started to add a little e/85 (1.5 gallons) to each tank.

Cured the higher readings I was seeing and still in a safe area for ethanol %.

I do get fuel from a high traffic, nice car area(3,500 gallons of premium a week), from a fuel provider suggested by Livernois for our area....BP

Just be sure that all the fluids in the car are up to operating temps before getting on it in the cold. Even after letting car warm up for 10 minutes, it still takes another 10 minutes of driving to get the trans temp up to 100* in this cold.

Good luck with ecobeast, can't wait to hear your thoughts on the tune.


Rich

Haha thank you. I will be posting how the yacht feels soon enough on clean highways.
2013 Roush Stage 3: Supercharged & Ready to Go Fast
2010 SHO - Daily: Corsa Cat-Back, Roush CAI, LME Downpipes, LME 3-Bar, LME Thermostat, LME Tune 4+

moem1090


Quote from: bpd1151 on February 26, 2015, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on February 26, 2015, 03:05:20 PMUntil few days ago before I started tuning with Torrie I wouldn't have known that weather or winter gas has an effect on the tunes.

It seems to me like people could blow up their cars or something if they plan to run a 93 octane tune as a dd during winter.

The obvious doesn't have to be stated here.....

The OP, who expressed excitement about his newly uploaded tune file (which happens to be from LMS and oddly enough, it is well known they don't utilize data logging) shouldn't have to concern himself with statements such as "people could blow up their cars" by implying they use a tune file that doesn't incorporate data logging for perceived winter fuel conditions.

That's a completely baseless allegation.

The fact is, any of the aftermarket tunes currently offered by any of the vendors thus far, have proven reliable and safe. Regardless of winter or summer fuel blends.

To the OP, once again, enjoy your newly found power. No matter what grade, or what blend of fuel you happen to use, you can feel comfortable and rest assured, regardless of reckless statements posted, you will not blow up your engine. Good God.

Thanks Mike, we did start going into a direction that I was unaware of so I appreciate all the clarity. The streets are actually pretty clean out today in some areas so I'm hoping I can get a good test run on my way to the city later this evening 👍
2013 Roush Stage 3: Supercharged & Ready to Go Fast
2010 SHO - Daily: Corsa Cat-Back, Roush CAI, LME Downpipes, LME 3-Bar, LME Thermostat, LME Tune 4+

ElvenSho

Quote from: bpd1151 on February 26, 2015, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on February 26, 2015, 03:05:20 PMUntil few days ago before I started tuning with Torrie I wouldn't have known that weather or winter gas has an effect on the tunes.

It seems to me like people could blow up their cars or something if they plan to run a 93 octane tune as a dd during winter.

The obvious doesn't have to be stated here.....

The OP, who expressed excitement about his newly uploaded tune file (which happens to be from LMS and oddly enough, it is well known they don't utilize data logging) shouldn't have to concern himself with statements such as "people could blow up their cars" by implying they use a tune file that doesn't incorporate data logging for perceived winter fuel conditions.

That's a completely baseless allegation.

The fact is, any of the aftermarket tunes currently offered by any of the vendors thus far, have proven reliable and safe. Regardless of winter or summer fuel blends.

To the OP, once again, enjoy your newly found power. No matter what grade, or what blend of fuel you happen to use, you can feel comfortable and rest assured, regardless of reckless statements posted, you will not blow up your engine. Good God.

hey bro I am not sure why your feeling the way you are, it might be that you have a tune that has not been datalogged? Not sure and really don't care. That statement could have been made for any tunes even the logged ones during summer time but using them in winter or logged in winter and used in summer... I would not recommend using a 93 tune in winter unless you know for sure the gas is good just after reading peoples responses in this thread. Yes it probably works and will be fine but do you want to take a chance? Its not like you will be going around racing anyways.
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

ElvenSho

Quote from: moem1090 on February 26, 2015, 04:43:57 PM

Quote from: bpd1151 on February 26, 2015, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on February 26, 2015, 03:05:20 PMUntil few days ago before I started tuning with Torrie I wouldn't have known that weather or winter gas has an effect on the tunes.

It seems to me like people could blow up their cars or something if they plan to run a 93 octane tune as a dd during winter.

The obvious doesn't have to be stated here.....

The OP, who expressed excitement about his newly uploaded tune file (which happens to be from LMS and oddly enough, it is well known they don't utilize data logging) shouldn't have to concern himself with statements such as "people could blow up their cars" by implying they use a tune file that doesn't incorporate data logging for perceived winter fuel conditions.

That's a completely baseless allegation.

The fact is, any of the aftermarket tunes currently offered by any of the vendors thus far, have proven reliable and safe. Regardless of winter or summer fuel blends.

To the OP, once again, enjoy your newly found power. No matter what grade, or what blend of fuel you happen to use, you can feel comfortable and rest assured, regardless of reckless statements posted, you will not blow up your engine. Good God.

Thanks Mike, we did start going into a direction that I was unaware of so I appreciate all the clarity. The streets are actually pretty clean out today in some areas so I'm hoping I can get a good test run on my way to the city later this evening

have fun, be safe and don't get pulled over lol.
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

ZSHO

Quote from: bpd1151 on February 26, 2015, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on February 26, 2015, 03:05:20 PMUntil few days ago before I started tuning with Torrie I wouldn't have known that weather or winter gas has an effect on the tunes.

It seems to me like people could blow up their cars or something if they plan to run a 93 octane tune as a dd during winter.

The obvious doesn't have to be stated here.....

The OP, who expressed excitement about his newly uploaded tune file (which happens to be from LMS and oddly enough, it is well known they don't utilize data logging) shouldn't have to concern himself with statements such as "people could blow up their cars" by implying they use a tune file that doesn't incorporate data logging for perceived winter fuel conditions.

That's a completely baseless allegation.

The fact is, any of the aftermarket tunes currently offered by any of the vendors thus far, have proven reliable and safe. Regardless of winter or summer fuel blends.

To the OP, once again, enjoy your newly found power. No matter what grade, or what blend of fuel you happen to use, you can feel comfortable and rest assured, regardless of reckless statements posted, you will not blow up your engine. Good God.
AMEN TO THAT)hallelujah)


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|