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Started by Tuner Boost, February 23, 2014, 05:25:16 PM

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BiGMaC

Quote from: SHOdded on April 11, 2014, 05:17:11 AM
That's another thing to look out for.  Does the catch can system cut back/eliminate the chimney-smoked/coal-mined look?

Great thought Manu!   Interested to get this feedback from those with installs of any make of catch can.

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JimiJak

Quote from: BiGMaC on April 11, 2014, 09:10:06 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 11, 2014, 05:17:11 AM
That's another thing to look out for.  Does the catch can system cut back/eliminate the chimney-smoked/coal-mined look?

Great thought Manu!   Interested to get this feedback from those with installs of any make of catch can.

Hadn't thought much about that...Well let's see:
the Rx catch can got installed on the XSport Saturday and it got a bath Sunday. I just walked by the rear of it today and thought; "looks like it's time to wipe down the tips again." So, still accumulating soot? Yes, as much? Hard to say, I'll have to look at how many miles the girlfriend has put on this week and see where we're at. I would say it's not AS bad for it being 5 days, but not a huge world of difference.

Every time I clean out the tips it makes me wonder what the cats are going to look like in 30K miles...lol
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SHOdded

Quote from: JimiJak on April 11, 2014, 07:19:44 PMEvery time I clean out the tips it makes me wonder what the cats are going to look like in 30K miles...lol
Exactly!  Should be getting water vapors/carbon dioxide etc. out the tailpipe and not much else.  The main culprit is still possibly running a little rich for that extra margin of safety on a boosted engine.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SwampRat

#123
Another good read by industry experts on GDI issues.
By the way there is TONS of info on this subject mater online , also to specifically address it as GDI is NOT necessary . GDI is nothing more than Direct Injection with a G added for gasoline .

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/05/ask-an-engineer-gdi-problems-in-a-nutshell/


A lot of members have brought  up the tear down video of the 2011  3.5 EB  as " proof " that we will have no long term reliability problems .

Please don't take this the wrong way as I am a die - hard Ford enthusiast but this is nothing more than a marketing tool .
One car is NOT proof and over the years it has come to light that all Automotive Mfg have sold vehicles with major design flaws .
GM's ignition switch problem proves this and Ford is no exception to the rule ...... Remember the Pinto ?
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POPSTAGE2

#124
Quote from: SwampRat on April 12, 2014, 08:07:58 AM
Another good read by industry experts on GDI issues.
By the way there is TONS of info on this subject mater online , also to specifically address it as GDI is NOT necessary . GDI is nothing more than Direct Injection with a G added for gasoline .

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/05/ask-an-engineer-gdi-problems-in-a-nutshell/


A lot of members have brought  up the tear down video of the 2011  3.5 EB  as " proof " that we will have no long term reliability problems .

Please don't take this the wrong way as I am a die - hard Ford enthusiast but this is nothing more than a marketing tool .
One car is NOT proof and over the years it has come to light that all Automotive Mfg have sold vehicles with major design flaws .
GM's ignition switch problem proves this and Ford is no exception to the rule ...... Rember the Pinto ?

Hey! I have a customer that just bought pistons and bearings for his stock Pinto...why, I dont know.
But really, they all have there problems. I eccept and understand the "why" of the PVC problem. I believe most if not all makes that don't have some sort "filter" or catch can have some level of problems.
I know my 04 Explorer Limited 4.6 had this problem...it,s just more important to resolve it with a turbo, supercharger, ic, Di, application imho.
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SHOdded

Hopefully we will get enough of the community to install catch can systems (hint, hint) and report their objective findings.  Did FMC do a fair/good/great job with the OEM systems?  Inquiring minds want to know :)
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Tuner Boost

Hey all, and any with the RX can installed on a flex or car please read. Simple minor change for the better:

PainterPat just left. What we found is the drill location for the front intake tube is before the fresh side barb, so at cruise it has been over powering the flow not allowing the can to work properly. So, everyone please note, no need to drill the front inlet pipe. Simply use the 5/8" barb to T into the back side one and then use a 90* 1/4 NPT x 3/8" barb for your clean side hose connection and drill it just after (down from) the air filter/air box. and connect the cleanside separator their. We tested and it worked properly, and it makes install easier. The trucks we can reach to drill downstream so that has never been an issue. Whichever fitting is closest to the turbo will over power the one up stream even if only by a few inches.  So, he is checking back in 500-800 miles to see the accumulation at that time.  Any questions, or anyone needing a fitting let us know and we will get it right out.

You want the fitting installed for the cleanside separator as close to the air filter as possible.

BiGMaC


•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

panther427

Has there been a catch can only install
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JimiJak

Quote from: BiGMaC on April 12, 2014, 02:18:15 PM
Pics please?  TIA
PainterPatt posted more info with pics on the FLEX INSTALL thread.

Quote from: panther427 on April 12, 2014, 07:30:28 PM
Has there been a catch can only install

Not that I'm aware of. Pretty sure the few rx installs that are complete have all been including CSS.
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SwampRat

#130
Quote from: Tuner Boost on April 12, 2014, 04:28:18 PM

I also recommend cleaning the CAC (remove to do) first as he still has a good bit of oil in his CAC.

Cheers!


Is there ANY way to clean the CAC while it is still mounted ?
From what I undestand removal is a royal PITA .
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

panther427

from what i/ve seen it would be a pain to try to clean it in the car.. you could discounect hoses and fill CAC with detergent and flush with water. then TRY to blow drive it out.. but then you would have oil residue on the outside the the CAC and front end. its MUCH better all around to pull it.  When i have cleaned Semi CAC there is alot of gunk.

I wouldnt try to clean it in the car.. to much chance of not getting the water out. And making a mess of the engine bay
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Tuner Boost

Panther is correct. Big hassle, but no way around it.

And this really needs to be done at the time of any can installation to remove what has already accumulated, and will give you a good idea on how badly your car has the ingestion issue.

SwampRat

Quote from: Tuner Boost on April 13, 2014, 08:16:11 PM
Panther is correct. Big hassle, but no way around it.

And this really needs to be done at the time of any can installation to remove what has already accumulated, and will give you a good idea on how badly your car has the ingestion issue.

  Uuugghhh .....  that royally sucks !
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2021 Edge ST

JimiJak

"America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." - Eleanor Roosevelt

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