2013 SHO PP Or No PP

[DJE624]

I guess that means either way you go, you'll be happy! 

[SwampRat]

It would be interesting to know if any of the car mags did a comparison between the two  .....

[BiGMaC]

What beck said... Great Idea!

[navbtcret]

I am the new owner of a 2013 non PP Tri whatever the crap Ford calls it white. I'll be ordering the tuner, thermostat and plug for it tomorrow. It now has 127 miles on it from driving it home from the dealership. I opted more for the comfort than the additional performance of the PP. Although the PP was nice it did not have some of the options that I really wanted on it and those were more important to me than an extra tenth or two at the strip. I gave up chasing ET's a few years ago. Just want some 12's which I am sure a tune and meth will give me.

Thanks for all the input and info so far.


From what I have read here a CAI really does nothing for you. I have a friend with a Flex and he said his ET was slower after installing a cai and faster after taking it back off.

[DJE624]

Congratulations!  Good Luck and Enjoy!  You should get into the 12's with just a tune and K&N panel (or very close like me! LOL). The meth will push you deeper into the 12's if you want to do that. 

[Dxlnt1]

Silly question. What is PP or NON PP? I'm the new kid on the block, so just learning the lingo.

[Frozen Taurus]

Silly question. What is PP or NON PP? I'm the new kid on the block, so just learning the lingo.

Performance package vs non Performance Package

[SRT82ECOBOOST]

Bottom line  is if you want less performance, go non-PP.

[DJE624]

You got any dynos or time slips to back that up?

[bpd1151]

I wouldn't necessarily say that the Non-PP offers less performance.

There has been no definitive distinctions in the gear ratio differences (2.77 for the Non-PP, versus the 3.16 for the PP pkg) as it relates to overall performance.

Bar none, the biggest differences between the two pkg's (at least for 2013 model years, and beyond) is that the PP pkg option includes all the auxiliary coolers for the trans, the oil, and the ptu.

Adding those, allows you essentially to have a true, track ready car. As FMC has so touted.

The additional differences beyond the above, are the better brake pads, & slightly better suspension. Those are the biggest differences.

But as the 1st person to retro-fit the auxiliary coolers onto a Non-PP pkg SHO (of which, the changes are easily performed) I can attest that the differences then become neglible.

Some of us 2010-2012 owners (both Non-PP & PP) have shown on the track, that there are no differences in performance between the two.

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[SRT82ECOBOOST]

You got any dynos or time slips to back that up?

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=1489.0

[DJE624]

What we really need would be dynos and time slips stock vs. stock.   Pretty sure the dynos would be too close to call.   The lower gearing of the PP may launch better if you get it all to the ground but what happens after you've wound out first and second?  I don't think the gearing helps any after that.

[navbtcret]

After I got home last night with the car, one of my daughters friends has a 2013 SHO non PP with Livernois's tune on it and a drop in K&N filter. He came by the house and let me take that for a ride, now stock the car is pretty peppy but night and day compared to a tuned vehicle. I have my tuner ordered already along with a thermostat and plug. I should be wrenching on the car next week with less than 500 mile it. Gotta love modding cars.

[FoMoCoSHO]

I ran 13.7@102.5 stock.

[68_GT]

love my PP and I recall talking to the guys at LMS and when I ordered my tuner I was told they noticed the PP cars responded better to the tune what ever that means. Honsetly though I'd probably trade my stiffer PP suspension for a non PP suspension. It rides a little too harsh for my daily driver. I'll never autocross the car so I'll never take advantage of it's suspension anyway. Now here and there it is nice to take a corner with but not really worth the bouncy / harsh daily ride.