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Dyno power gains w/ stock SHO and LMS Stage 4

Started by Fast SHO, November 19, 2013, 08:54:37 AM

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DJE624

This just in from Livernois:

When you first flash the 2010-2014 vehicles they shift harder than normal. They have adaptive learning and will soften up, but still be firmer than stock as it learns how you drive.
Thank you

BiGMaC

DJ... do you data log?  Is there any extra equipment/software needed  What is your procedure for modifying a tune when need?  TIA 
MI is a long way from me... but I am planning a tune ... and maybe hot-pipes... in Jan.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

DJE624

No.  I'm too lazy to data log.  That's why I run LMS.  If you use Unleashed you really need to data log so Torrie can tweak and zero in your tune.  Most guys use their SCT programmer to log and then download it to their computer to send out.  There are other ways I believe but I haven't really gotten into it.  I do use my Torque Pro to sometimes check intake temps, boost levels, AFR and time my 0-60 MPH runs. That's about all I did this past six months.

BiGMaC

Thanks DJ.. and thanks for starting this thread!

Any other comments to help a newbie make some decisions?

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

DJE624

Thanks to Fast SHO for the thread.  I was just lucky to have LMS dyno my car.

Dxlnt1

#80
Just received email from LMS that they are behind on sending out tune files! Needless to say I am a bit pissed I spent a few hundred dollars for a tuner that is completely useless right now. From the email, sounds like it may be at least a week.

Is this normal to receive primary tune?

Is there a problem with existing tune that they are holding off releasing the same tune to others?

It was a simple 89/91 octane tune, that a bunch of you already running.

Who is the competition? I may consider jumping ship because of this. I don't need a company that can't or won't uphold there end of transaction, fully. I understand stuff happens but they could have told me there was an issue when I made purchase. Geez!

Then again, I could just be anxious and upset about lack of communication.
2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

DJE624

As far as I know, there have never been any problems with the 2010-2012 tunes.  Mine have been fine.  I do know that they do get backed up sometimes.  I've heard stories where there are 60-80 tunes waiting to got out.

JMR76

They do get backed up and I believe they have been tweaking.  I never had a problem with the early 2013 SHO tunes in any weather.  I think when they added power and boost to the later versions (upon customers request) some of us started experiencing some minor issues in cold weather on WOT.
2013 SHO - PP/ GH Intercooler / 170*TS / Cold .026 plugs / MSD Coils / Corsa cat-back / PPE Catted Downpipes / Xtreme-DI XDI-EO HPFP / E 30+ / Gear Head Tuned.

Fast SHO

2014 SHO PP

Dxlnt1

So, how long to receive you first tune after purchase and sending in strategy code?

I can't even install peripherals as I intend to dyno car before and after tune is installed with all the goodies.
2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

DJE624


vernonator

Quote from: Dxlnt1 on December 12, 2013, 08:24:00 PM
So, how long to receive you first tune after purchase and sending in strategy code?

I can't even install peripherals as I intend to dyno car before and after tune is installed with all the goodies.

Give them a break! You do know its the holiday's = employee time off + increased sales. They are not wal-mart, and have a finite number of guys that do this thing. Relax, have a beverage and enjoy the tune when it arrives - because it's a game changer with these cars!!!!

Mark
2012 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP. Livernois Stage 4+, PPE Catless DP's, EBC Stage 4 Front/Rear Brakes
2015 Tuxedo Black Explorer Sport 401A, no mods....YET :)

Dxlnt1

Quote from: vernonator on December 13, 2013, 08:42:04 AM
Quote from: Dxlnt1 on December 12, 2013, 08:24:00 PM
So, how long to receive you first tune after purchase and sending in strategy code?

I can't even install peripherals as I intend to dyno car before and after tune is installed with all the goodies.


Give them a break! You do know its the holiday's = employee time off + increased sales. They are not wal-mart, and have a finite number of guys that do this thing. Relax, have a beverage and enjoy the tune when it arrives - because it's a game changer with these cars!!!!

Mark


Good point about the holidays. I clearly did not factor that in. As I staid, it may just be my anxiety to go fast that's making me inpatient.
2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

Dxlnt1

Well good news. I received files today. Gonna instal thermostat first for ease while car cold, then pull baseline dyno.

Then install cai, spark plugs and stage 4 tune.

What is gap on plugs that everyone is using?
2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

Livernois Motorsports

Quote from: Dxlnt1 on December 13, 2013, 05:31:41 PM
Well good news. I received files today. Gonna instal thermostat first for ease while car cold, then pull baseline dyno.

Then install cai, spark plugs and stage 4 tune.

What is gap on plugs that everyone is using?

we recommend .030 for plug gap, but do use feeler gauges, don't trust the "gap tool" sold in many auto parts stores.