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Torque Knock PID - may have some progress...

Started by ecoboostsho, November 08, 2013, 09:47:16 AM

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ShoBoat

#210
August 14, 2014, 06:24:06 PM

Quote from: ecoboostsho on August 14, 2014, 06:09:13 PM
I should clarify one thing. The new equation accounts for a 1/4 of a degree. If you had a .75 before the old equation would have shown that as .5. Also .75 rounds to .8 so I could see you thinking it was higher visually. Or said differently, If you think its higher it was because you were getting .75 but it was only displaying the .5 as it didn't add the quarter degree.

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Thanks, but I believe that I am seeing more events period. What I mean is I could drive the car for a whole 20 min trip only seeing one .5 event. Now it seems like a more. Weird. I am taking my lap top with me tonight and will see if it does the same.
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

SHOnUup

#211
August 14, 2014, 06:32:45 PM
Maybe a slight reading of .25 was not being displayed prior.

Danger area is +4 to +5 right
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

ShoBoat

#212
August 14, 2014, 06:34:54 PM

Quote from: SHOnUup on August 14, 2014, 06:32:45 PM
Maybe a slight reading of .25 was not being displayed prior.

Danger area is +4 to +5 right

Possibly and anything over 5 is concerning 7+ is really freaking bad lol.
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

glock-coma

#213
August 14, 2014, 06:35:46 PM
I'm pretty sure the ecu can compensate for up to +7
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

SHOdded

#214
August 14, 2014, 06:38:10 PM
If you have a spare Airaid filter box (even the stock box) handy, I'd say to put that in and see if it make any difference.  Keep an eye out for accumulations of gunk in the intake/CAC, ShoBoat.  Wondering if any of that stuff that stayed in suspension is now condensing out in inappropriate places with the intake mod.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ShoBoat

#215
August 14, 2014, 06:38:24 PM

Quote from: glock-coma on August 14, 2014, 06:35:46 PM
I'm pretty sure the ecu can compensate for up to +7

Same here, but my thought is if your getting 5+ then something isn't right. Typically I have almost have never seen over 3.5. And that was mad heat soak at the track.
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

ShoBoat

#216
August 14, 2014, 11:36:59 PM
I went out earlier and it the new equation seems a bit more "sensitive" I believe that it might be reading quicker if that makes sense. I'm not sure what the difference is, I'll do some more logging tomorrow to see if I can put my finger on it.
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

FoMoCoSHO

#217
August 15, 2014, 12:54:08 AM
Update...Had about 3 hours of driving over much different terrain than my normal commuting and putzing around. For the first time I had events where I could see timing added.

glock-coma

#218
November 04, 2014, 10:22:00 PM
Hey guys just thought I would update my knock situation.
I sent Torrie some data logs through torque and he was able to correct my lugging condition +kr numbers.

Here's a couple pics before and after tune revision.
You want to look at the last 3 columns which are engine load, rpm and knock.


2010 RCM non PP
K&N panel filter
sp534 @ 30
unleashed 93 performance+boost 3bar
more to come.....

2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

SHOdded

#219
November 04, 2014, 10:33:12 PM
Good to know that situation can be corrected!  SHO running better now?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ecoboostsho

#220
November 04, 2014, 10:37:56 PM
Good news! Curious what your timing was before and after...

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2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

glock-coma

#221
November 04, 2014, 10:44:18 PM
Haven't put many miles on her since the tune adjustment.
It didn't run bad before, just higher than nomal kr numbers.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

SHOnUup

#222
November 04, 2014, 10:58:21 PM
Is this sort of a winter tune...or are you boosting octane?

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

glock-coma

#223
November 05, 2014, 07:41:45 AM
Not a winter tune but I did switch to my 91 tune due to the crappy winter gas in my area.
Still using 93 octane with the 91 tune.
I still had high kr numbers.
Torrie then adjusted something in the tune file. No +kr as of yet.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

SHOnUup

#224
November 05, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
Quote from: glock-coma on November 05, 2014, 07:41:45 AM
Not a winter tune but I did switch to my 91 tune due to the crappy winter gas in my area.
Still using 93 octane with the 91 tune.
I still had high kr numbers.
Torrie then adjusted something in the tune file. No +kr as of yet.
Good to hear, smooth "sailing" ahead.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.
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