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Just to 1000% confirm i need AA5Z9F479B for a 3bar-map?

Started by TopherSho, December 15, 2017, 01:45:45 PM

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TopherSho

I am going to spend the 75$ and buy a second one and swap it into my rig.  it is a long shot and not likely the issue but it is cheaper than 2000$ in turbos to see if it solves my no-code  overboost that Brad is seeing.
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

ZSHO

Correct! The 3-bar map sensor is MOTORCRAFT CX2231 {#AA5Z9F479B}  $44.78 ea with promo code applied and shipping included.  Z

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2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

TopherSho

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

ZSHO

Why not just swap both 3-bar sensors!  to see if there is any noticeable change in overall boost functionality!  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

TopherSho

Quote from: ZSHO on December 15, 2017, 02:09:09 PM
Why not just swap both 3-bar sensors!  to see if there is any noticeable change in overall boost functionality!  Z


... :P  almost had me.  silly cold..
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

God I hate this dealership so %^&*ING much .. 3 days ???

guess will order the RockAuto one ..
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

BTW, we only offer 999.999% certainty, sorry, the lawyers, you know.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

glock-coma

I've got one you can try. I should be able to ship it pretty cheap. 
Just pay shipping it back to me. I'll ship it to you free.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

ZSHO

How's the condition of the gaskets for the 3-Bar map sensors ?  Sometimes the gasket gets brittle and worn out overtime which can potentiate a boost leak!
I would verify,inspect all sensors including the IAT Sensor!  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

TopherSho

It *looks* ok to me and is less than 6 months old.  But in the face of 2500$.. well a 50$ experiment seems a no brainier since it is involved in managing g boost.  ;)

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

AJP turbo

Your map sensor isn't making boost rise at the top end...I thought at one point you could buy wastegate actuators aftermarket and they claimed to make power....they didn't really make power though they just added boost because wastegate duty cycles would need major tuning after that type of hardware change

I think your diaphragms in your wastegate canisters are messed up honestly

If the canister is messed up it won't push the rod that opens the wastegate  which is how boost is lowered
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TopherSho

Well, no joy.  New MAP does not change the overboost behavior.  So I am back to 2000-2500$ in turbo repairs :(.

#$%^....
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

bpd1151

Time to toss in the ATP upgrades. Yea baby.

Vroom vroom.

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TopherSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on December 17, 2017, 03:49:34 PM
Your map sensor isn't making boost rise at the top end...I thought at one point you could buy wastegate actuators aftermarket and they claimed to make power....they didn't really make power though they just added boost because wastegate duty cycles would need major tuning after that type of hardware change

I think your diaphragms in your wastegate canisters are messed up honestly

If the canister is messed up it won't push the rod that opens the wastegate  which is how boost is lowered

Yeah..  I was hoping the MAP was damaged somehow but it is not.  Soooo ... yeah I need to get ford to declare the 'turbos' bad to get warranty work or have the engine fail of its own accord which I want to avoid at this point... or... pay the 2000-2500...  bummed.

I would do the ATP turbos if I could do it myself.. but I know my limits.  And there is no-one in town or near town I trust.

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on December 17, 2017, 03:49:34 PM
Your map sensor isn't making boost rise at the top end...I thought at one point you could buy wastegate actuators aftermarket and they claimed to make power....they didn't really make power though they just added boost because wastegate duty cycles would need major tuning after that type of hardware change

I think your diaphragms in your wastegate canisters are messed up honestly

If the canister is messed up it won't push the rod that opens the wastegate  which is how boost is lowered

Hey AJP! ... had a question .. what kind of  membrane?  call me crazy but a flexible part in a constant oven sounds silly ?  (educate me!)...
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction