Blends, Meth,nitrous

DerricksSho · November 30, 2016, 03:49:39 PM

Ive done quite a bit of looking and research im new to this car and direct injection. I know from previous cars nitrous and turbos went well together. I see you would have to do a dedicated fuel system for the nitrous. Another benefit to using this would be cleaning the values like the meth kits do correct me if im wrong.
Now to the Meth quite a few kits out there and seem like more and more are making them. I wont put one on my car unless im certain its a great piece. Will meth and nitrous work together? How to get the most out of your meth kit?

People who are running the blend and this is more than likely where im going to go and would like the help to get there. How close do you have to be on your blends how much will the car take care of its self? Are people using boost-a-pumps on any of these set ups? Upgraded injectors needed or pumps?

Sorry for hitting topics that have been talked about but I wanted to hear some first hand experiences and not what could happen or my friend of a friend has. There are a lot of companies who rely on you not knowing your vehicle and take advantage of that. Knowledge is power and finding a great working combo can out run just throwing money at it.

Thanks guys

J-Will · November 30, 2016, 07:48:50 PM

I wouldn't say n2o and turbos work well together. Those are two components that increase the need for fuel. Also n2o does not require a separate or dedicated fuel system.

At least that's what my friend told me.

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ZSHO · November 30, 2016, 09:41:37 PM

I don't have any first hand experience with either mods you mentioned above or any friends in particular that do have but based on your signature LME will only tune and exclusively work only with Alky methanol kits from my understanding and for starter's due setup an intro for yourself simply by following the link below and welcome,thanks. http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html BTW here's a great power per mod discussion here. Z http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,808

Colorado-SHOBro · November 30, 2016, 10:12:16 PM

Quote from: J-Will on November 30, 2016, 07:48:50 PM
I wouldn't say n2o and turbos work well together. Those are two components that increase the need for fuel. Also n2o does not require a separate or dedicated fuel system.

At least that's what my friend told me.

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hahaha well put J-will.
there's plenty of members running meth to give you feedback on that and that alone.
very few that i'm aware of that have run nitrous on the SHO and very doubtful you'll find anyone that has run them both in combination.
IMO do one or the other. if you choose to use both your getting into a lot of tuning complexities that i doubt any vendor or tuner will be willing to tackle.

then again i've never used either so feel free to completely discard what me and my friends have to say on the matter

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Gjkrisa · November 30, 2016, 11:53:27 PM

World's fastest gtx runs meth full time with shots of nos.
In a wet nos system you add the right amount of gas to go with the shot of nos to stay at 14.7 you try to run a little rich say to stay 13 or as much as 5 from any one cylinder detonating but ecopower has a nice 6 injector direct port intake manifold so you can run closer to detonating without upgrading fuel pumps/injectors.

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Gjkrisa · December 01, 2016, 12:02:28 AM

I don't know how much the car can handle but to Find out you will need to tune the car on meth then add nos.
Someone on this forum was able to talk to a engineer for the Taurus and they said first weak point is the transmission but couldn't say how much but hinted to 600 I think meth alone can do that...
But I doubt the rest of the drive line is not much further down looking at gtrs upgrade route and others at 1000hp all drive line and fuel system is upgraded but it engine internals unchanged till after that.

Gjkrisa · December 01, 2016, 12:07:42 AM

http://www.429-460.com/t2357-water-injection

http://www.biorootenergy.com/learning-center/mixed-alcohols-versus-ethanol/
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DerricksSho · December 01, 2016, 03:37:54 AM

Thanks guys, Im looking for a small shot 50 75 at most. From what ive read E30 and nitrous should do really well with each other and I wouldnt be taking fuel away from the car but adding it. A reliable fun car ive got 3 other ford toys to play with also. With the look of things high 11's maybe mid. And im reaching out to those that know what these cars can and cant do. Thanks and keep the information coming please

Gjkrisa · December 01, 2016, 12:36:44 PM

Excited to see the results!

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J-Will · December 01, 2016, 03:12:53 PM

The Mike that runs this board and does eb performance would say that up to 75 is fine.

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DerricksSho · December 02, 2016, 12:25:39 AM

I guess I really ment one or the other just came out different in my words was kinda thinking. nitrous would be wet and have its own fuel supply
93+meth : results
100+meth : results
93+ 50 75 shot : results
100+ 50 75 shot : results
E30 on its own looks to be impressive : results
E30+meth
E30+ 50 75 shot : this is what im leaning tord!!

once again guys and gals thanks

metroplex · December 03, 2016, 08:55:08 PM

I was going to start my own thread, but I guess this is probably the best place to ask as well.

Has anyone tried Klotz additives like their Nitro or Coxoc, but with an EcoBoost application? I read a test done years ago on the Fox body Mustang where they dyno'd some decent gains with the Coxoc additive (about +20 hp mid-range). The Nitro looks like it might be really great for knock resistance at the track.