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Adding a weep hole to the intercooler (CAC)

Started by 93Cobra, January 15, 2016, 01:05:00 PM

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SHOdded

If I weren't keeping an open mind, this thread would not exist :)  I realize this idea MAY have potential, but we need proper validation a) for a reason to do it, and b) the technical explanation of why & how it is safe to do.

Regardless, I think your point has been made, now it's up to others to ask the questions they have, and get into their own comfort zone.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

AJP turbo

People with the sho aren't having the issues with condensate for whatever reasons...look at the history here

Youve had 2 trucks and a sho with these issues....sometimes people make their own fortunes is all i can say to that....your situation is unique to say the least in terms of misfortune of ecoboost problems

The low frequency of issues here with the sho should be enough for people to question the necessity of this ill advised mod....ots awsome that it has worked out for you....but history has shown on this platform its just not required

Interesting point is ive been looking through the ecoboost codes and the " allowable wheel torque error " values are different between the f150's and the sho's and new f150's are closer to the sho's....very telling in my opinion

The intercooler block off mod from fors was a patch fix....the allowable wheel torque error was another, and more effective patch for the root cause, the ford torque based logic for misfire detection
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93Cobra

Quote from: SHOdded on June 18, 2016, 03:09:17 PM
If I weren't keeping an open mind, this thread would not exist :)  I realize this idea MAY have potential, but we need proper validation a) for a reason to do it, and b) the technical explanation of why & how it is safe to do.

Regardless, I think your point has been made, now it's up to others to ask the questions they have, and get into their own comfort zone.

Thanks - happy to answer anyone's questions.

Brucelinc

I certainly will refrain from challenging what anyone does with their car.  It was discussions like this that prompted me to check my intercooler and found nothing there.

I think I saw on a different forum that someone needed to suck "a lot" of oil out of theirs on a regular basis.  I do not think that is normal or routine maintenance.  I would not have been shocked to find a little bit in mine after 6 years and 60,000 miles but if I had found much, I would have been very concerned about turbo seals or other potential issues.

sholxgt

FWIW, my 27,000 mile MKS that I purchased used showed about 1/3" of oil on the dipstick when I inserted it into the intercooler.  I used an assortment of tubing, a brake bleeder container, and a household vacuum to suck out the oil.  In the end, I did not get out very much oil, but it does bother me that ANY was present.  I was hoping to see none.  I would guess I evacuated about 1/2 oz.

That being said, if that was the amount present after 27,000 miles, I'm not sure it would ever reach a point of hydrolocking the motor.  I will continue to monitor the amount to see if any action beyond a semi annual cleaning is necessary.
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Formerly -2013 MKS Ecoboost Premium
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93Cobra

Oil doesn't hydrolock the engine. Your oil in their is just a product of the very poor PCV system ford has. This is why a catch can is recommended. The SOLE purpose of the weep hole is to let the condensate buildup escspe to atmosphere. The intercooler/CAC WILL build condensate at some point. The hole lets you escape the deathly shutter experience by just draining to atmosphere.

SHOdded

Are you saying oil won't hydrolock the engine?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

93Cobra

It would get burned off if ingested. The water/condensate does not.

AJP turbo

Water injection is a common method for reducing aircharge temps in boosted applications...not water/meth but pure water
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

93Cobra

A mist - not a huge gulp of water that these intercoolers make.