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Alignment specs....

Started by Slantnose!, July 13, 2015, 06:00:41 AM

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Slantnose!

Hello.
Does anyone know what the stock factory alignment specs would be for a '14 MKS AWD Ecoboost?
Also, once lowered with H&R's...is anything changed or aligned differently?
Thanks,
Marc
L. Marc Lisner

magoo22

I have a 2010 MKS EB with the sport package. I put a set of Megan Coil overs on it this spring. Dropped the back 2" and the front 1" and took it in for an alignment. Not sure if this crosses over to the 14 or not but you need to be able to get back to factory specs to have the car drive properly. The first shop I took it to was freaked out about the change in ride height and I tried to talk them through setting it up properly. In the end they said it would not align and I was going to have to live with it. The rear camber was the biggest issue but they also said that they couldn't get the toe proper on the back. I had read on this form that getting the adjustable bolts would be a solution. I did not like the way that looked as you had to use shorter bolts and different nuts. Would have worked fine I'm sure but it just ate at the back of my head. I read on a different form that someone had decided to elongate the holes in the upper arms by 5mm (1/5" +/-)  and that they were able to get back to factory specs. I decided to take this route and grind out some metal. In the end I took it to another shop that was fine with modified suspensions and they were able to align it back to factory specs. It drives like a dream now.

On the coil overs, they were a bit stiff for my liking in a commuter car but it handled like it was on rails. I still had the factory MXV 4 tires on it. I recently replaced the tires with Nitto Motivo's and the improvement was incredible. It still handles like I want it to and it is only a little bit stiffer than I would like it to be.

Everything should remain the same except the height of the car. They had the specs at the alignment shop simply by scanning the sticker.
2010 MKS Ecoboost

BiGMaC


•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

Probably the door sticker.  And welcome, magoo!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

glock-coma

Thx for your experience magoo22. Any before and after pics?
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

SHOnUup

I dropped the coil overs another little bit last week....need another alignment :(

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2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

AJP turbo

What does the door sticker say about alignment?
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Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

SHOdded

I was thinking that the barcode on the door sticker gave the shop enough info to look up the correct alignment specs.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

BiGMaC

You'd. think all that stuff would be accessible using the VIN or a barcode reader (phone app). Wonder if there is an online database where the end user could use the info to look that info up?

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

FoMoCoSHO

I dont know what the stock specs are and MrsFoMoCoSHO doesn't know if they are listed in her materials as everything is preloaded into the machine at the dealership. If I ask nicely maybe she will check for me.

After the lowering and subsequent alignment, the car does need to fall into the stock spec range.

magoo22

Yes there is a bar code on the inside of the drivers door. The guys at Mister Lube use it and the guy at the alignment shop used it. It loaded all the information they needed to do the alignment. Not sure what to say beyond that.

The only comment that they made was that there is no adjustment for front castor on my car. But it was in spec at 3.75 deg and equal on both sides. They said that matters as it will pull if they are not equal. On the specs the before and after numbers are listed on the sheet they gave me.

The front was pretty close but the rear was out by quite a bit. Camber went from 1.8 deg to -.5 deg. Toe went from .9 deg to .05 deg  The thrust angle was also changed from .3 deg to .01

Finding a shop that will do work on modified suspensions is the key in my experience. If they are the least bit hesitant say thanks and walk out. The car tracks and handles perfect because someone took the time to do it right.

Not sure how to post picks but maybe I will find the time to put some up on the weekend.

One other note on installing the coil overs on the front. If I ever take that apart again I will look at dropping the lower A arm from the car and take the whole assembly out as one. Those lower nuts were a real xxxxxx. I also noticed that the bushings seem to be preloaded for the ride height that they are set for when installed. They have resistance when you move them past a certain amount. I loosened the bushing bolts on all four corners with a jack holding light weight and then torqued them back up. It might be my imagination but that seemed to help soften up the ride.
2010 MKS Ecoboost