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I'm Buying Race Fuel..which one?

Started by DakotaSHO, July 15, 2015, 12:00:11 PM

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DakotaSHO

July 15, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Since I live in a state that doesn't sell anything higher than 91 octane I've started pricing out buying a 55 gal drum of racing fuel so I'm able to run the 4x 3 bar tune from LMS at the track next time I go. Here are the 3 I'm looking at so far...

Sunoco 260GT (100oct unleaded) - $460/drum
Sunoco 260GT (104oct unleaded) - $530/drum
Sunoco 260GTX (98 octane oxygenated unleaded) - $530/drum

A co-worker who drag races suggested the 260GTX. I'm not a fuel expert by any means so I'm open to any suggestions and feedback from everyone. Would oxygenated gas be ok to use in an ecoboost engine?
2011 SHO- Roush cai
2011 Ford Mustang GT - Boss im, Kooks LT's, Circle D 4C converter, JLT cai ~ 11.7@117mph
SOLD - 2011 Ford Taurus SHO (non pp)
LMS catless downpipes, windstorm cai, 160 Tstat, SP534 Plugs,3 bar, LMS 4+ tune, rear muffler delete
Best et: 13.09@105mph on LMS 93 4x tune

SHOdded

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July 15, 2015, 12:25:34 PM
Comparison of their fuels (from their website www.racegas.com)
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Frozen Taurus

#2
July 15, 2015, 02:16:10 PM
Ask LMS which octane is most appropriate for the tune
2011 Tuxedo Black SHO non PP, K&N drop in, TCE Big Brake Kit, Megan Racing Coilovers
My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

bamsho

#3
July 15, 2015, 03:07:03 PM
I know LME uses VP racing fuel.  I asked about race gas, esp MS 109.  They said the car will adapt to he race gas.  But my issue is getting VP racing fuel, cause they want you to buy 25 gallons of it.  I would email LME about the which Sunoco race fuel to run. 
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

DakotaSHO

#4
August 12, 2015, 02:28:23 PM
Well pulled the trigger and ordered a 55 gal drum of Sunoco 260GT, oxygenated, 100 octane unleaded....excited to run the LMS 4x 3 bar tune and see if I can't get a lower et before the summers over :)
2011 SHO- Roush cai
2011 Ford Mustang GT - Boss im, Kooks LT's, Circle D 4C converter, JLT cai ~ 11.7@117mph
SOLD - 2011 Ford Taurus SHO (non pp)
LMS catless downpipes, windstorm cai, 160 Tstat, SP534 Plugs,3 bar, LMS 4+ tune, rear muffler delete
Best et: 13.09@105mph on LMS 93 4x tune

AJP turbo

#5
August 12, 2015, 02:48:58 PM
Vp street blaze is good as is the 260gt..most important for making sure it's compatible with the tune is the stoic point of the fuel..and those are pretty close to pump e10 gas...if ur race fuel is vastly different u will see fuel trims being of...it will increase more the further the race fuel is from the stoic of ur normal gas.

Now to take advantage of the octane u could up the boost and timing or a combo of the 2.....I love how people here say the adaptives will take care of it...there would be no need for tuning then...the adaptives have user defined limits and thresholds....it will only add spark to a point...and if u are running a true race fuel then those limits along with the base tables would need modified to take full advantage....otherwise race gas doesn't do much....it's like running 93 for a car designed and tuned for 87
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

DakotaSHO

#6
August 12, 2015, 03:31:38 PM
Stoichiometric Air/Fuel Ratio is 14.1
9.8% ethanol content

Here are the full technical details on sunoco 260gt.. http://www.racegas.com/fuel/17.

I've been in contact with Anthony @ LMS in regards to all of this.
2011 SHO- Roush cai
2011 Ford Mustang GT - Boss im, Kooks LT's, Circle D 4C converter, JLT cai ~ 11.7@117mph
SOLD - 2011 Ford Taurus SHO (non pp)
LMS catless downpipes, windstorm cai, 160 Tstat, SP534 Plugs,3 bar, LMS 4+ tune, rear muffler delete
Best et: 13.09@105mph on LMS 93 4x tune

SHOdded

#7
May 14, 2016, 05:08:52 AM
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SHOnUup

#8
May 14, 2016, 09:18:03 AM
Race gas = "race tune" from Livernois

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2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

Josephm

#9
May 14, 2016, 10:43:35 AM
Get a race gas tune from lme, just running a 93 4bar, you aren't taking full advantage of the power.

I have a race gas base map from unleashed and it takes easily .2 off my 1/4
12' Flex EB
Unleashed X4
3rd Cat delete
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