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Started by moem1090, March 04, 2015, 12:17:54 PM

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moem1090

Hey guys, okay so the weather finally cleared up by me and I have been running livernois stage 4x tune and I love it. If I drive normal the car behaves stock, and if I give it more gas it picks up much faster. To me .. It feels ... Right.

I know that the fans stay on longer thus the upgrade for the thermostat, but my question is do they come on more frequently or do they stay on? Because I feel like mine are constantly on and they are pretty loud. I was at the gas station last night and when I walked to my car from the lobby I can hear the fans from a distance.

Just wanted to get you guys input! Thanks!

Moe
2013 Roush Stage 3: Supercharged & Ready to Go Fast
2010 SHO - Daily: Corsa Cat-Back, Roush CAI, LME Downpipes, LME 3-Bar, LME Thermostat, LME Tune 4+

ZSHO

#1
I know LME can adjust your fan settings,with the 160 stat the fans come on earlier and stay on longer,you can email them if you notice the fans do not shut off,make also sure the a/c or front defrost is not on cause that can contribute to the fans coming on earlier,also check coolant level,good luck and keep us updated.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

donky4444

Mine are on a lot as well.  LME sets them to come on at 150* which is pretty much anytime the car isn't moving.  When I pull in my driveway they are not on but by the time I get pulled into the garage they come on. 
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2014 SHO 402a PP 20" flower wheels. LME  tune, 3 bar MAP, LED Puddle Lights and LED DRL's from Drive Bright, tinted head and tail lights, gloss black vinyl wrapped all chrome with custom chrome SHO emblems front and rear. SOLD

2015 X Sport LME 3 bar tune, LED Puddle and plate lights

SHOdded

Supposedly, by doing this, the fans don't stop/start as much, saving a lot of wear & tear on them, so they last longer as well.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

AJP turbo

Quote from: donky4444 on March 04, 2015, 02:09:00 PM
Mine are on a lot as well.  LME sets them to come on at 150* which is pretty much anytime the car isn't moving.  When I pull in my driveway they are not on but by the time I get pulled into the garage they come on.

Did LME tell you that? If so that's a good way to wear out your fans and relays and that can't be good for emissions and fuel economy and I would question that you would even want a hotter plug since the combustion temps would be down and preventing the tip of the plug from reaching the optimum temp for self cleaning.

Generally you want your fan settings to be at least 5 degrees above the thermostats fully open temp rating. If the fan setting(called desired coolant temp in SCT) is set below the what the TSTAT is rated for then essentially you have a fan that is trying to cool fluid that is NOT circulating because the tstat is closed....Useless. It is, however, good to get the fluid circulating sooner for WOT runs once the stat does open. But at that point at least the fan's operation is useful.

With a fan setting below the tstat's rating is will be trying to achieve a temp that's not possible. With a fan setting slightly above the tstat's rating you use the radiator's maximum cooling capabilities and then the fan to supplement cooling when needed.
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405whp/520tq
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BiGMaC

moem... THE best thing is to ask LME directly. They can tell you and test all this in their own '10-'13 SHOs.  Don't change plugs unless they recommend it... no tuner does btw.  Just saying, no dis...

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•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOnUup

#6
I'm running LME 93 4 PX TS 3BAR tune and fans come on at 180* all the time.

Rich
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

SHOnUup

They run constantly once up to operating temps...unless I get a long coasting stop in.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

Livernois Motorsports

Quote from: ajpturbo on March 04, 2015, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: donky4444 on March 04, 2015, 02:09:00 PM
Mine are on a lot as well.  LME sets them to come on at 150* which is pretty much anytime the car isn't moving.  When I pull in my driveway they are not on but by the time I get pulled into the garage they come on.

Did LME tell you that? If so that's a good way to wear out your fans and relays and that can't be good for emissions and fuel economy and I would question that you would even want a hotter plug since the combustion temps would be down and preventing the tip of the plug from reaching the optimum temp for self cleaning.

Generally you want your fan settings to be at least 5 degrees above the thermostats fully open temp rating. If the fan setting(called desired coolant temp in SCT) is set below the what the TSTAT is rated for then essentially you have a fan that is trying to cool fluid that is NOT circulating because the tstat is closed....Useless. It is, however, good to get the fluid circulating sooner for WOT runs once the stat does open. But at that point at least the fan's operation is useful.

With a fan setting below the tstat's rating is will be trying to achieve a temp that's not possible. With a fan setting slightly above the tstat's rating you use the radiator's maximum cooling capabilities and then the fan to supplement cooling when needed.

We don't activate them until after the thermostat would be open. We don't activate them nearly that low. Turning them on before the thermostat is open is just not something that we would ever do.


SHOdded

Jaimie:  Rich mentioned 180F as the fan turn-on temp, is that number accurate?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Livernois Motorsports

Quote from: SHOdded on March 05, 2015, 08:52:33 AM
Jaimie:  Rich mentioned 180F as the fan turn-on temp, is that number accurate?

It is not too far off, he is far closer than aj.

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Livernois Motorsports

Quote from: SHOdded on March 05, 2015, 10:21:36 AM
ok, thanks!

No problem! Remember, we are here to answer your questions. Feel free to call or email us directly.

AJP turbo

#13
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on March 05, 2015, 10:12:54 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 05, 2015, 08:52:33 AM
Jaimie:  Rich mentioned 180F as the fan turn-on temp, is that number accurate?

It is not too far off, he is far closer than aj.

Don't get mad...i never said at what point their fan comes on? That's a vague answer lme ...you can't tell your customer when their fans come on?..proprietary I suppose
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

ZSHO

#14
Quote from: ajpturbo on March 05, 2015, 12:14:16 PM
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on March 05, 2015, 10:12:54 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 05, 2015, 08:52:33 AM
Jaimie:  Rich mentioned 180F as the fan turn-on temp, is that number accurate?

It is not too far off, he is far closer than aj.

Don't get mad...i never said at what point their fan comes on? That's a vague answer lme ...you can't tell your customer when their fans come on?..proprietary I suppose
AJP,based on your analysis from your other post,the s*** is not adding up,ha ha,LOL.Z.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|