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Wheel hop under hard acceleration

Started by Kansas66, November 24, 2014, 01:06:03 AM

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southtxSHO

#15
December 28, 2014, 08:23:01 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on December 28, 2014, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: southtxSHO on December 28, 2014, 02:19:55 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on November 24, 2014, 07:28:53 AM
Very normal, coming from a tuned SHO I can say. Cold weather has put a stop to brake boosting launches for sure. Also getting the tire hop when shifting into 2nd from an aggressive take off. Love the power created from the cold air, but need a well prepped surface to take full advantage of.

Rich
I've been noticing this right after the exhaust upgrade . The 1st to 2nd  gear shift  feel very aggressive .
Yes, feels horrible when you get that dreaded hop. The main reason I'm going coilovers, linkage, wheels and tires before any more power add ons.

Rich
I can't imagine how it will feel with the meth kit .....
2011 SHO non PP
LMS 4 +tune
LMS Cai
LMS catted downpipes
12.89@ 105 MPH best time @ Edinburg Raceway

BiGMaC

#16
December 28, 2014, 08:51:43 PM
Glad I'm in Phoenix where tires do't get too hard... Minimizes this problem.  After meth is added you may need to look for not only after tire, but more flexible sidewall.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

#17
December 28, 2014, 09:30:02 PM
General GMax > Continental DSW > Michelin Super Sport as far as flexible sidewall goes.  Don't know where the Pirelli Cinturato fits in this hierarchy.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

southtxSHO

#18
December 28, 2014, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on December 28, 2014, 09:30:02 PM
General GMax > Continental DSW > Michelin Super Sport as far as flexible sidewall goes.  Don't know where the Pirelli Cinturato fits in this hierarchy.
How about the BF Goodrichs G- Force Comp-2 ?
2011 SHO non PP
LMS 4 +tune
LMS Cai
LMS catted downpipes
12.89@ 105 MPH best time @ Edinburg Raceway

SHOdded

#19
December 28, 2014, 10:01:43 PM Last Edit: December 28, 2014, 10:13:27 PM by SHOdded
Being a UHP summer tire, and with this statement "g-Control sidewall inserts featuring up to a 40% higher sidewall stiffening structure to improve lateral stability and cornering precision", I would say the sidewall is as stiff as or stiffer than the Super Sport.  Since TX has widely variable weather depending on where you are/where you primarily drive, your choice of tires likely would change accordingly.

http://thesquealingtire.com/bfg-gforce-sport-comp2-review/
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

southtxSHO

#20
December 28, 2014, 10:12:51 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on December 28, 2014, 10:01:43 PM
Being a UHP summer tire, and with this statement "g-Control sidewall inserts featuring up to a 40% higher sidewall stiffening structure to improve lateral stability and cornering precision", I would say the sidewall is as stiff as or stiffer than the Super Sport.  Since TX has widely variable weather depending on where you are/where you primarily drive, your choice of tires likely would change accordingly.
My choice is between the BF comps or Hancook Ventus 12s
2011 SHO non PP
LMS 4 +tune
LMS Cai
LMS catted downpipes
12.89@ 105 MPH best time @ Edinburg Raceway

SHOdded

#21
December 28, 2014, 10:15:45 PM Last Edit: December 28, 2014, 10:20:05 PM by SHOdded
I don't think you can go wrong with either for a "summer" tire.  Here's a bit of discussion you might find interesting re: tire selection:
http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=117219
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO

#22
December 28, 2014, 10:36:09 PM
There are a few members here which had pretty good sucess with the V12'S,probably get them cheaper now cause its winter,as they are a summer tire.  http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+V12+evo2&partnum=445YR0K120XL&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2011&autoModel=Taurus&autoModClar=SHO


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

BiGMaC

#23
December 28, 2014, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on December 28, 2014, 10:15:45 PM
I don't think you can go wrong with either for a "summer" tire.  Here's a bit of discussion you might find interesting re: tire selection:
http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=117219
True Manu... but right now my next tires will be the Hancook Ventus V2s...

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

#24
December 29, 2014, 03:48:04 AM Last Edit: December 29, 2014, 09:52:10 AM by SHOdded
You mean the V12's, BiGMac?  I see Tirerack is showing 2 versions, the Evo2 and the K110/evo.  Both are directional tires, with the Evo2 geared towards fuel economy as well.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic.jsp?sidewall=Blackwall&tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+V12+evo2&partnum=435YR1K120XL
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic.jsp?sidewall=Blackwall&tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+V12+evo+K110&partnum=145YR8K110XL&fromSurvey=true

Price for 20" stock size 245/45/20:
EVO2 - 169
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+V12+evo2&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=445YR0K120XL&tab=Sizes
EVO - N/A at this size, but the line is on closeout on tirerack
1010 tires does have them but more expensive ...
http://www.1010tires.com/Tires/Hankook/Ventus+V12+Evo+(K110)/1009171/size/245-45ZR20-XL

UPDATED w links/corrections
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

BiGMaC

#25
December 29, 2014, 09:15:57 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on December 29, 2014, 03:48:04 AM
You mean the V12's, BiGMac?  I see Tirerack is showing 2 versions, the Evo2 ($150/tire) and the K110/evo ($84 on closeout).  Both are directional tires, with the Evo2 geared towards fuel economy as well.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic.jsp?sidewall=Blackwall&tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+V12+evo2&partnum=435YR1K120XL
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic.jsp?sidewall=Blackwall&tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+V12+evo+K110&partnum=145YR8K110XL&fromSurvey=true

Yea Manu... Ventus V12 evo2... hope to 1+ tire size to see if a little more footprint decreases 0-60 noticeably.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock
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