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Started by Gray Brick, December 24, 2014, 01:41:37 AM

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Gray Brick

December 24, 2014, 01:41:37 AM
What is the max boost the factory SHOFlex turbos are capable of?


2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

BiGMaC

#1
December 24, 2014, 02:25:43 AM Last Edit: December 24, 2014, 02:27:22 AM by BiGMaC
17-18 psi ... Less when ambient temps are lower.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

Gray Brick

#2
December 24, 2014, 03:20:15 AM
What options are available for upgraded turbos?
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

SHOdded

#3
December 24, 2014, 06:23:06 AM
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Gray Brick

#4
December 25, 2014, 12:06:07 AM
So who is running these?
What is your max HP/TQ?
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

wasinger3000

#5
December 25, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
I've had my turbos up to 25 psi with meth. No issue yet.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

BiGMaC

#6
December 26, 2014, 01:11:30 AM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on December 25, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
I've had my turbos up to 25 psi with meth. No issue yet.

These are upgraded turbos, right? 

I'm confused as to why meth injection is an issue in this case?  Aren't you injecting into the post IC charge pipe?

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

wasinger3000

#7
December 26, 2014, 01:21:20 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on December 26, 2014, 01:11:30 AM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on December 25, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
I've had my turbos up to 25 psi with meth. No issue yet.

These are upgraded turbos, right? 

I'm confused as to why meth injection is an issue in this case?  Aren't you injecting into the post IC charge pipe?
There's no issue with meth. They are stock turbos on my car. Without meth the boost at higher pressures would also be at very high temperatures. Which is not useful.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

Gray Brick

#8
December 26, 2014, 04:11:16 AM
What do I need to do to get more boost?
Is there something needed to have Torrie increase the boost to a higher level?

I am seeing 16-17 psi with the 50/50 meth.
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

crash712us

#9
December 26, 2014, 01:49:58 PM
Don't want to start anything but we have only one person that claims they are running 25lbs of boost on stock turbo no less. Guys that have modified turbo's and make over 600whp don't run that type of boost. Why that is? I don't know.


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2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

BiGMaC

#10
December 26, 2014, 02:03:43 PM
Quote from: crash712us on December 26, 2014, 01:49:58 PM
Don't want to start anything but we have only one person that claims they are running 25lbs of boost on stock turbo no less. Guys that have modified turbo's and make over 600whp don't run that type of boost. Why that is? I don't know.


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Boost is determined by many things... But more boost is not necessarily more HP... I remember Dave's Dyno tune with Dan Millen earlier this year... ended up with more HP than he ever made... and 20% less boost used

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

crash712us

#11
December 26, 2014, 02:06:55 PM
Correct. I am just not going to speculate as to this specific situation.


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2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

SHOdded

#12
December 26, 2014, 04:43:46 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on December 25, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
I've had my turbos up to 25 psi with meth. No issue yet.
Max boost or sustained boost, wasinger?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

FoMoCoSHO

#13
December 26, 2014, 11:47:59 PM
I'm curious about ambient, cac, and iat2 temps at this boost level....

wasinger3000

#14
December 27, 2014, 12:14:49 AM
Quote from: crash712us on December 26, 2014, 01:49:58 PM
Don't want to start anything but we have only one person that claims they are running 25lbs of boost on stock turbo no less. Guys that have modified turbo's and make over 600whp don't run that type of boost. Why that is? I don't know.


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It's not a "claim" it's a fact and I've seen it numerous times in a mechanical boost gauge. It is not sustained boost at 25 psi. It is a peak number. I'm not saying it's making more power or that it is what people should be running. Simply saying these turbos can and will produce 25 psi.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.
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