Ask Darreli about Andy......

I also had an issue with him over the serpentine belt with the underdrive pulley I purchased from Livernois. Sent me the wrong one.. He argued with me and eventually allowed me to send it back for a refund at MY expense.  Overall cost extra due to his mistake... at least $50.

Rick was great.  Can't say enough good things about him. 

(strangely, I am of the similar opinions........) 

Time will tell with the seals.

Hope they need to swell, seat, or whatever.

Car runs great!  It feels like it may be a solid low 12 second car.  Keeps pulling and pulling!

Mike

I was on the interstate today, and I thought you were in front of me, pulling a trailer, but it turned out to be a Chevy Diesel Pickup -  Constant smoke!

I surely hope you get it fixed or it fixes itself. 

Now have 2200 miles on the car, and it smokes like a PIG even more.

Fluids look OK, just the dipstick is dropping, and I am adding oil......

Looks like the turbo builder is hanging me out to dry on this.....  The car had 174 miles on it and they installed the new wheels, but did not change any of the seals, and appear to not have any interest in making the car right .....

Does an aftermarket company make a complete turbo upgrade yet?

Not happy with the car so far, due to the lack of any definitive course of action from the $11,000+ I spent and the 6 months at the shop....

Irritated! 

What shame! I don't know what the standard is turbo shops as in a warranty for there workmanship. Apparently there is none, well what every problem is. Its probably only one of the turbo's, I just can't believe no one is stepping up to the plate to make it right.

Try PM'ing Chris at Livernois.  He is quite active on this forum, so hopefully he will have a solution for you.

I would hope, given the fact that so many people are potentially going to purchase these upgraded turbo's, that stepping up to the plate, and "making it right" so to speak, wouldn't even have to be mentioned.

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I'm not getting a warm and fuzzy feeling about this now.

I was planning to drop the six grand in January to get the turbo and meth installed.

I will be actively watching this. Curious on its resolution.

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Same here, this has me very concerned. But we need to keep in mind we have half the story, and those of us that have been on the dyno know that s*** happens. Such as a burned up meth controller or unresponsive O2's, so things go wrong that are no ones fault. Its a part of the game for performance. Now whether LMS chooses to comment on this individual case on the forum is up to them, but I know it will be question they will have answer to me before I have any of these mods done. But we have to keep in mind each mod has its own risks, this maybe one of them. So hopefully some light can be shed on the subject, so all can benefit from this unfortunate case.

That's a pretty big Ouch.  And Im with turbo Dave on the smoke.  Their is a ton of other platforms that plus 11k would create much faster cars.  Wow...

The thing that stinks is I got the car dropped of in the pouring rain, drove it for 1 mile and parked it.  Next day I put the plates on and drove it to get it inspected, and at this point the smoke was prevalent.  I emailed Andy, and he mentioned the car may need to be driven as much as 800 miles for the "new" turbo seals to seat.

Last email the turbo builder ma have not even touched the seals when they were apart......  Turbos had 174 miles on them when the build started.  I received the car with 675 miles.

I am hopeful that Livernois will step up and help me out......  Time will tell.  Either way I am out of the use of my car, and all the extra expenses, again.

Mike

Why would they not replace seals if they're changing the fan blade?

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Quote from: geswek on July 21, 2013, 10:57:07 PM
Why would they not replace seals if they're changing the fan blade?

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They're only machining out the front side cover and installing a new compressor wheel, no reason to dig into the turbo sooner if they're new. The Tial (Livernois) turbos are a fairly easy upgrade except for the machining process.

I watch some video's last night on rebuilding turbo's. The sealing system used inside turbo particularly on the spindle, it would appear if the wheel was made to in correct spec's and there was to much side to side play. It could result in a oil leak, this is just my unedujumacated opinion in my attempts to a understand how the sealing system works on a turbo.

So Livernois sources the turbo upgrade with another company, so they don't warranty the work? This doesn't make any sense to me. Did they tell you all of this when you were getting them to do all of this work? Or did you source the turbo upgrade yourself and have Livernois do the work? I'm just not understanding why Livernois would do business this way...