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Recent strip trip and?'s

Started by TooFast4SHO, August 02, 2014, 05:52:09 PM

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TooFast4SHO

Just got back from the San Antonio Speedway last night and got results not as good as I was hoping for =-(

I have a 2014 SHO non-pp with adaptive cruise, collision avoidance, lane keeping, 20" factory 10 spoke wheels etc. in White with (weight with me in the car 4520 - I am 220 of that): Has dropped H&R springs installed,

Tune is:
Livernois: 3 bar 93 oct tune with catted down pipes and thermostat with re-gaped plugs

The post down pipe exhaust is still stock.


Times were all 13.2x between 13.21 and 13.26, plenty faster than some of the other cars that showed up =-)

Seems it should be faster maybe?? Not really sure where it should of fallen out at this point.

2014 SHO non PP, Livernois 3bar v8 tune, PPE Catted Downpipes, 3rd cat delete with straight pipe stock back, H&R Dropped Springs, Low Temp Thermo. Adaptive Cruise, Collision Avoidance, Lane Keeping, Auto Brights..

12.99 @ 106.4 with 3/4 tank of gas and spare etc. in car.

shoman04

What was the temp? What was the DA?
2011 KONA BLU SHO,Livernois Tune,AIRAID CAI,DYNOMAX MUFFLEs,Newest member of the 12sec CLUB 12.669sec @ 107mph    2011 Ford Taurus SHO: 12.669 @ 105.050 MPH NEW FOR 2013LMS down-pipe,Magnaflow X-pipe,and Custom 2.5"exhaust pipe!! Meth and stage 5 next to be install!!!!!! METH DYNO TUNE today 405AWHP!!!WOW LMS track day 12.4209sec   :mike1:

scap99

#2
Quote from: shoman04 on August 02, 2014, 07:05:36 PM
What was the temp? What was the DA?

Probably in the 2300' neighborhood last night...


Should correct to about:
Stock and Mildly Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
12.851 @ 107.895 MPH

According to drag times website.

TooFast4SHO

It was around 85 out which seemed cool for San Antonio lol, There was also a black SHO out there that did not seem to know what he had that ran a 13.0x I was impressed with that since there were alot of unanswered questions about it. Thinking about getting some shorter track tires for my ride, additional upgrades too maybe depending...

2014 SHO non PP, Livernois 3bar v8 tune, PPE Catted Downpipes, 3rd cat delete with straight pipe stock back, H&R Dropped Springs, Low Temp Thermo. Adaptive Cruise, Collision Avoidance, Lane Keeping, Auto Brights..

12.99 @ 106.4 with 3/4 tank of gas and spare etc. in car.

PokerMunkee

Post your best time slip.  Need to see all the numbers.

Sounds one heat and humidity were against you.  What were other cars running so we can compare to?
2013 SHO PP - Ignot Silver/Charcoal
Unleashed 91 tune w/ 3BAR, Corsa exhaust, LEDs everywhere
2011 F-250 6.2 CCSB FX4

TooFast4SHO

4 time slips and a pic are attachments if your logged in...

There was one other SHO *2011* unknown full mods that ran a 13.0x I talked to him but did not find out much about the car.

There were some mustangs and challengers etc running around 13.4's and having to pedal, I could not tell much wheel spin from the drivers seat just seemed to hook and leave. there was a new vette that was running 12.7's there were a lot of bikes and other cars in to 8-10's as well. I tried launching from 1800-2200 RPM without much change in time. My best time of 13.21 was after I flashed while at the track to improve shift speed. I guess just the added weight of all the features on the car plus lugging my FA around with the hotter temps was too much to over come lol...!
2014 SHO non PP, Livernois 3bar v8 tune, PPE Catted Downpipes, 3rd cat delete with straight pipe stock back, H&R Dropped Springs, Low Temp Thermo. Adaptive Cruise, Collision Avoidance, Lane Keeping, Auto Brights..

12.99 @ 106.4 with 3/4 tank of gas and spare etc. in car.

TooFast4SHO

from drag times

Density Altitude: 2614 feet
Relative Density: 92.57 %

2014 SHO non PP, Livernois 3bar v8 tune, PPE Catted Downpipes, 3rd cat delete with straight pipe stock back, H&R Dropped Springs, Low Temp Thermo. Adaptive Cruise, Collision Avoidance, Lane Keeping, Auto Brights..

12.99 @ 106.4 with 3/4 tank of gas and spare etc. in car.

ShoBoat

Your 60 foot times could be better. They should be closer to 1.8 from what I can see. Are you getting a lot of wheel spin off the line?
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

ZSHO

Thats not bad considering the weather and the DA, What exact tune are you running,cause i was one of the first to get the V8 tune back in 3/14 and its a beast and also do you hear your turbos spooling??To fully achieve the benefits of the DP a good exhaust and proper tune will give you better results in the outcome,good luck with the ride.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

PokerMunkee

#9
Quote from: TooFast4SHO on August 02, 2014, 09:37:17 PM
4 time slips and a pic are attachments if your logged in...

There was one other SHO *2011* unknown full mods that ran a 13.0x I talked to him but did not find out much about the car.

There were some mustangs and challengers etc running around 13.4's and having to pedal, I could not tell much wheel spin from the drivers seat just seemed to hook and leave. there was a new vette that was running 12.7's there were a lot of bikes and other cars in to 8-10's as well. I tried launching from 1800-2200 RPM without much change in time. My best time of 13.21 was after I flashed while at the track to improve shift speed. I guess just the added weight of all the features on the car plus lugging my FA around with the hotter temps was too much to over come lol...!

Oops, didn't see the attached pics on my phone!

Yeah, need to get out there when the DA is closer to 500', so in a month or two.  The guys hitting mid 12's are on the east coast tracks, which produce the fastest numbers for any car.  You'll hear people even say Atco is down hill lol.  Or they are at sea level and run on nights with a negative DA.   A 1.8 60' is the goal.  Just work on your launch, you'll perfect it eventually.  Could be a tenth or two there. 

Remove any weight you can (spare tire, etc), gas tank at 1/4 or less.  100lb = a tenth usually.   

A 13.2 is still respectable but I know with your tune+3bar+down pipes, you definitely want 12s.  Don't blame you. 

I lived in Las Vegas for a while and my tune only 2006 A4 GTO would never get below a 13.4 on the coldest nights.  The elevation and higher temps just weren't ideal for drag racing.  People at Atco and other east coast tracks were posting 12.8/12.9's and it was frustrating lol.  I now live in the Colorado mountains, so I just try to be faster than the other guy.  SHO's are doing mid/high 14's here stock.
2013 SHO PP - Ignot Silver/Charcoal
Unleashed 91 tune w/ 3BAR, Corsa exhaust, LEDs everywhere
2011 F-250 6.2 CCSB FX4

TooFast4SHO

It is supposedly the livernois v8 3bar tune, I have been a tad frustrated with their naming conventions and getting a straight answer on what it is. It seems that their tunes are canned and their v8 3bar covers everything without being overly specific to mods. I had asked for a tune with the mods I had listed and it was not named for them, I had also gotten a v8 non-3bar version I did not ask for and it was the only one that had everything listed in the name.... I assume my tune is correct I have asked and been told it is... Seems like they could do a much better job with the whole deal

Car has 3500 miles on it now so more upgrades will come with time. The Corsa exhaust is too loud I want something very tame that flows better than stock. I am waiting to see if that cut out piece gets made and if that would fit...
2014 SHO non PP, Livernois 3bar v8 tune, PPE Catted Downpipes, 3rd cat delete with straight pipe stock back, H&R Dropped Springs, Low Temp Thermo. Adaptive Cruise, Collision Avoidance, Lane Keeping, Auto Brights..

12.99 @ 106.4 with 3/4 tank of gas and spare etc. in car.

geswek

That seems about right given your mods and where you are; I'm from Austin but live in PA -- I ran 12.5 at a track in Maryland that is below sea level; I'm sure I would not be doing that if I was somewhere else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLWlya24nZA

TooFast4SHO

So how should I know what tune I have?

With traction controll off it barely chirps the front tires during a launch, other with the v8 3bar sound like they have huge traction issues?

I asked for the 93 oct v8 3bar for the 2014 sho with Thermostat, plugs, down pipes and 3 bar map, do not believe adding a cat back would change it THAT much more?
2014 SHO non PP, Livernois 3bar v8 tune, PPE Catted Downpipes, 3rd cat delete with straight pipe stock back, H&R Dropped Springs, Low Temp Thermo. Adaptive Cruise, Collision Avoidance, Lane Keeping, Auto Brights..

12.99 @ 106.4 with 3/4 tank of gas and spare etc. in car.

SHOnUup

What does it say exactly on the tuner? And yes, I'm spinning pretty good at launch with some tire hop into second...new tires might be needed now
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

TooFast4SHO

The mycal only says 93 v8 3bar on the tuner, I called and asked and was told they do not use any standard when naming the files. I got another one that said 93 v8 DP TS but the car ran like crap because it was not 3bar I assume. I am frustraded about it a little.... I called and they said the tune was what I asked for...

It is running a 3bar v8 tune for sure, not sure what the tune without the downpipes accounted for would behave like. I do not feel like a small chirp from launch and no spin into second sounds like what others are seeing but a 13.21 is not a bad time. I thought I would be faster than the other SHO that was there since I had more done but he was running a 13.0....


2014 SHO non PP, Livernois 3bar v8 tune, PPE Catted Downpipes, 3rd cat delete with straight pipe stock back, H&R Dropped Springs, Low Temp Thermo. Adaptive Cruise, Collision Avoidance, Lane Keeping, Auto Brights..

12.99 @ 106.4 with 3/4 tank of gas and spare etc. in car.